Yes, Sun Ce is not Ma Chao, he is not Cao Cao. But to be honest, Ma Chao wants to destroy Liu Bei because Liu Da'er blocked his own progress. If he unified the world, he must treat Liu Bei as a stepping stone. That's right. Cao Cao also had this idea, but it depends on the attitude of the person and the Yanzhou army towards Liu Bei. In fact, it is not difficult to see that they also want to destroy each other. That's right. As for Sun Ce and the Jiangdong army, he is not so disdainful of Liu Bei, but indeed,

The other party was basically hostile to the Jiangdong Army, and it was normal to destroy them. Moreover, Liu Bei's territory was still next to Jiangdong. I have to say that if Jiangdong wanted to rise up, he had to destroy them. That was right. So this was the case, and in the end, Liu Bei's side was destroyed, which was actually normal. Now it seems that they were destroyed first, which was actually normal.

It is normal for them to be destroyed first. If they are not destroyed, that is abnormal. Indeed, just look at Ma Chao Liangzhou Army, Cao Cao Yanzhou Army and Sun Ce Jiangdong Army. They actually want to destroy Liu Bei's side. It can be seen that if they are not destroyed, it is wrong, and indeed. So Ma Chao took the Liangzhou Army to destroy the other side. In the end, Cao Cao and Sun Ce gave up directly. And at the beginning, that was

It's different. Indeed, they didn't have the idea in the end, and destroying Liu Bei's side would also allow them to take advantage of it. Then they can only say that they did it, that's right. It must be thinking that they will get the benefits of their side. But it's just that, it's better than having more disadvantages than having less advantages. That's right. That's right, if they have more bad or more bad things, then both sides have to do what they do to them, that's right. Then, they will destroy Liu Bei, and he

We no longer interfere. In this way, it will benefit the most and benefit the most. That's not all. Of course, this is also the last helpless choice, that's right. At least if the Yanzhou Army and the Jiangdong Army think that they can get the most and greatest benefits to protect Liu Bei, then they must have to do that. But Ma Chao thinks it's okay, but the fact is not that way.

Perhaps it is true that they can temporarily protect Liu Bei. But to be honest, if they do that in the end, they may not be able to get the most and most benefits, that is not. If that is true, the two armies will not fight with their own side, but in fact it is almost the same. But obviously, they will not be like that, at least Ma Chao knew that they did so, and it would not be worth the loss.

So even if they watched the Liangzhou army destroy Liu Bei's side in the end, of course they also fought for some benefits for their side, which was correct. If there was no benefit, who would do it, it would be good. If there was no benefit, Cao Cao and Sun Ce would not do it, and Yanzhou army and Jiangdong army would not. Even if it was the end of Liu Bei, it would be considered the general trend of the world. That was true. If it was the Jiangdong army, it would be different. And that was actually not in line with Ma Chao's strategy of introducing it later.

This must first pick the soft persimmon, that's right. Liu Bei's side is indeed soft persimmon, that's right. Which side is the weakest, then naturally Liu Bei's side. The Yanzhou Army and the Jiangdong Army are both stronger than them. That's right, the Jiangdong Army is stronger than them, let alone the Yanzhou Army, that's really. So I picked the softest one.

That's right. Or that's right. It's just that history didn't choose Liu Bei. Even if he gave him some strength, he didn't choose them in the end and destroyed Liu Bei. Then he divided the world three times, not four times. In fact, when he thought about it, he did not divide the world into four times, but it was indeed not good at splitting the world. For Ma Chao Liangzhou Army, Cao Cao Yanzhou Army, and for Sun Ce Jiangdong Army, it was all four times worse than three times, that's right. For them, it's better to have one less prince in the world.

It must be true, they all think that way, yes. If it weren't like that, then it would be different, it would be different. Cao Cao and Sun Ce thought so, and in the end they did the same. The result was indeed, they were satisfied, that's right. Yes, if they were not satisfied, it would not be like that. There is a pity, after all, Liu Bei could still unite with them and deal with the Liangzhou army together, which is good. But there are few princes in the world. In the eyes of Cao Cao and Sun Ce, it is actually a good thing.

Yes. After all, the Han Dynasty is so big, with thirteen states, but once there are more princes, there are more territories. In the past, when the princes fought, even if they occupied a few county towns, you could say they were all the princes. But now, the world is three parts, and even the most powerful Jiangdong Army, they have two states, so this is indeed impossible to compare before, that's right. Two states, how many counties are

Can the city be compared? Even Chang'an, Xudu, and Jianye are not enough. After all, they are two states, even if one of them is the last. But Yangzhou thinks it is the top one, which is correct. Yangzhou is not comparable to any county, and indeed. If there are a few more, it cannot be compared. Yangzhou is six counties and an absolute military center, which is not wrong.

If there are six counties, it is not comparable to several counties. If there are indeed several counties, it is not enough. If there are at least several counties, it is indeed true. If there are always more powerful than several counties, it is not even as strong as it is. It is impossible to compare at all. The difference is indeed not small. After all, counties and counties are not of the same level. After all, many counties can form a county in the end. If there are several counties, half of the territory is less than half of the territory in some counties.

But that's right, county towns cannot be compared with counties after all, that's right. Of course, this is not absolute. Places like Chang'an, Xudu, Jianye, etc., combined, they can definitely surpass certain counties, and that's the same. This does require specific counties. If there are just a small county town, no matter how many, to be honest, it's impossible to compare with a big county. That's true.

This so-called big county is like Nanyang, Hanzhong, etc., that is an absolute big county, the big county in the world, it is not comparable to ordinary counties, it is correct. Then there are indeed a few counties like that, not a few counties, that is also good. Isn't that the situation, that was. Therefore, the situation was like that, Cao Cao and Sun Ce, and that

Yes. The current trend of the world is that Liu Bei is missing. In Ma Chao and the others' opinion, it is actually better. That is. If there are less princes, then there is definitely less meat. It is true. When the princes fought in the first place, it can be said that there were more wolves and fewer meat, and it was not enough for the princes in the world to divide the world. Now, there are only three princes left, and they also think they are all good. At least Ma Chao and the others will not think that the territory is really not enough, and they will not think that their territory is big, and Sun Ce and Jiangdong Army are all

There is no such idea, let alone Ma Chao and Cao Cao, that's it. They don't think that their territory is too big, and they still think that it's not enough. This power is as big as possible, yes. Cao Cao/he thinks it's good now. At least his power has actually surpassed the Liangzhou army, even if it's only a little bit. For them, they are more than

But indeed, we can't underestimate this little bit, which is really not possible. But although the power can be said to be like this, that's true, but with strength, they are still inferior to the Liangzhou Army. That's the same. Cao Cao and Yanzhou Army, they dreamed that their strength was better than the Liangzhou Army. But that was the same, it was not really impossible, but if it was still the case, the probability was no different from that. Then this was an impossible thing, and they had known it long ago.

That would not be better than that, but I would not say I would give up. Even Sun Ce and Jiangdong Army had never given up. So would Cao Cao, would they give up? Indeed, they would not. For Cao Cao and Yanzhou Army, their strength was not as good as Liangzhou Army, but they were not much worse than them, that was right. The key is that our side was not fighting alone and was in alliance with the Jiangdong Army. Even if they were the weakest, Cao Cao was better than nothing in Yanzhou Army. That was indeed true.

It would be easier to deal with the Liangzhou army in alliance with the Jiangdong Army. As for the latter, they thought of destroying the Jiangdong Army first and then destroying their own side. But to be honest, their side would not let them succeed so easily. If they wanted to destroy the Jiangdong Army, they had to fix the navy first, and then talk about the others. If even the navy cannot fix it, like their side, then it would be true.

That's not possible, unless the gap is particularly large. For example, if someone has 100,000 naval troops, anyway, if you take out 100,000, then you take out 200,000 or even more, that's about the same. But the Jiangdong Army must have more naval troops than that. If you are on your side, how many of them can this be twice as many? Not necessarily, then don't think too much about the number of horses in this way, it's not that much, it's not even more than that.

There are so many, at least twice as much as it is. I won’t talk about anything else for the time being, just talk about the Battle of Red Cliff in history. At that time, Cao’s army had 200,000, while Sun and Liu’s coalition were only 50,000. This gap is indeed not small, but it is actually very large. But to be honest, Zhou Yu’s fire plan was successful in the end, and there was indeed a factor of the right time, place, and people. That is true, but there is another very important point, which must be admitted that it is Cao’s army, Northern army, and Cao Cao’s side. They are indeed not good at water wars and have to go to training at that time.

That's true. But the Jiangdong Army and Liu Bei's side are really not needed. They are good at it, and that's true. So if you use what you are not good at, you can deal with what others are good at. This is considered to be based on your own weaknesses and the strengths of the enemy. This means that you are not superior to the enemy, that's true. So in the end, Cao's army was defeated, and they were defeated directly and retreated back to the north.

It is not just a shameful thing to say that the Battle of Red Cliff was the most influential battle during the Three Kingdoms period. Although in the end, Cao's army ran back half of it, there was always a hundred thousand people, but at least 100,000 people were lost. Although it was true that the entire army was not wiped out, it was true that this was

It was a great loss of strength. A battle in the Battle of Red Cliff directly laid the foundation for the Three Kingdoms. It actually makes sense. From many perspectives, it is not that way. It is really good. In fact, Cao Cao and Cao's army should be glad that although the fire in Red Cliff caused them to be defeated, it would be good if they did not wipe out all the troops. If Cao's army died 200,000, then it was really, basically the north would be hurt.

It was actually only half of this, and they didn't accept it. Cao Cao did not lose like that, but he didn't say he had never lost. The number of times he lost was too many. Together, it would have been more than the loss of the Battle of Red Cliff, which was right. Then, he had many regrets when he came to the Battle of Red Cliff, but he had no choice. He was helpless. It was all over, that's right.

He is indeed not afraid of failure, that's good. The so-called "win and defeat are common things for military strategists", indeed. Not to mention giving him 100,000 troops, even if the entire army is wiped out, even if it is damaged, Cao Cao would not feel that he could not accept it at all. The words of the man are still very realistic and true. He has already begun to show his talents since the Yellow Turban Rebellion and has always been

By the Three Kingdoms period, it can be said that Cao Cao was indeed not comparable to ordinary people, that is correct. Just like Liu Bei said, he was a little short of Cao Cao. After all, he only started to show his talents during the Yellow Turban Rebellion. Cao Cao was already famous before, that is correct. He became famous much earlier than Liu Da'er, and he also had great ambitions. He didn't want Liu Bei to be a false benevolence and righteousness. Cao Cao was really for the sake of the Han Dynasty. At least you have to admit that the person at the beginning was like that, a capable minister who ruled the world, that is true.

Needless to say, Cao Cao is so personal. After that, there is no way to change. It is not that he changed. It is really the world's general trend that changed first, and Cao Cao was helpless. After all, he was a traitor in troubled times, and he has become a chaotic world. What other people are you relying on for capable ministers who govern the world? That's really gone, it's all in troubled times. If you govern the world, just wait. As a result, the world will be reunited a hundred years later.

Unification, but the two Jin dynasties are not as good as the two Han dynasties. There is no need to say much about this. The gap is too big, and it is far behind. This is really, and it is not wrong. The two Jin dynasties are sinners, that's it.
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