Chapter 959 The two armies return after the war (thirty-three)
It is indeed obvious, that is true. They can see that Yanzhou Army and Jiangdong Army, that is. Yes, in the Yanzhou Army, the Liangzhou Army trained the naval army, and 90% of them had nothing to do with their own side. This battle between them and their own side is indeed useless. But to be honest, although the north is different from the south, it does not mean that the navy has no place to use its power. However, Cao Cao and Yanzhou Army both knew that it was Ma Chao's Liangzhou Army or our own side, neither of them would use the navy to fight decisively. That's it
It's true. After all, infantry fighting power is strong and the navy is not good. How can we give up our strength and use our weakness to deal with others? At least Ma Chao and Cao Cao, Liangzhou Army and Yanzhou Army, they are not. So they have no war. Just from the Jiangdong Army, Ma Chao and Liangzhou Army have to destroy them, so they have to use it, there is no way. Cao Cao and Sun Ce, they naturally know that Liangzhou Army
Training also includes the navy. The intention is very obvious. That is. If the Jiangdong Army is not destroyed, in fact, there is no need to train the navy. At least Cao Cao and Sun Ce both saw it that way. Because, in the battle with the Yanzhou Army, there is no need to use any navy. It is only said that when they destroyed them, when they fought with them, that was
It is definitely needed. If the Yanzhou army is not very much, at least it is different from the Liangzhou army. Even if they want to destroy the Jiangdong army, the navy is not necessarily the main force. This is also, maybe, most of them are not. The navy just wants to break through the water camp to intercept or something. The real attack on cities and plunders is indeed based on infantry. The Battle of Red Cliff in history will not happen now, so naturally it is not like that. Ma Chao is not Cao Cao in history, and Cao Cao and Sun Ce and others are not
It is Sun Liu in history, not at all. So the Battle of Red Cliff is gone, so I don’t know what else is. What should be there, maybe there are, but most of them are gone. So what is not in history, at this time, maybe there are. But it’s not, when Ma Chao comes, there are more changes in history and are all empty, which is true. It’s normal to think about it, the origin of it.
Shi's words were already slowly changing, and he was just a bigger butterfly, that's it. For Ma Chao, it's not a big deal. History has changed beyond recognition, which is what he would rather see. That's right. Even so, Ma Chao must have lost a lot in the end, such as forward-lookingness, which is normal. But to be honest, there are many benefits, that's right.
But the benefits are actually more, this is good. And the more important thing is that Ma Chao can't change it, most of them are. So since they are all like that, then let it go. It seems to be good, at least there are many benefits, that is. This is just that, that's right. Although this is definitely more helpless, that's right, but he also thinks it's okay. At least there are many benefits, that's right. So even if it's helpless, the result is still good, and Ma Chao and the others know it.
That's right. So this is the same. In this situation, it's all right. If it's all bad, there are many disadvantages and fewer advantages, then even if you are helpless, Ma Chao and the others have to think about changing more, that's definitely right. But now that's not needed, there are many benefits, there are many advantages and disadvantages, that's true. So now, don't change anything, just
That's good. For Ma Chao, it's really that way. For the Liangzhou Army, there are more good things. In fact, to the Yanzhou Army and the Jiangdong Army, in general, it seems that there are many benefits. This is really. I won't say anything else. Let's give two simple examples. In history, Cao Cao's son died, but Cao Ang is still alive and is still alive. Isn't this a big change? As for the Jiangdong Army, it's even more so, just Sun.
Ce said that he had died long ago, but he is still alive, which is a big change. So these are all changes brought by Ma Chao, which is indeed related to him. And just two of them, can you say that it is not good for the Yanzhou army to the Jiangdong army? Obviously, the benefits are obvious. There is no need to say more about the benefits that Cao Ang brought to the Yanzhou army when he is alive. At least in many places, he actually surpassed Cao Pi. This is true. Don’t look at the latter, he has places like Cao Cao, such as his personality and temper, but to be honest, that way
The situation cannot add too much points to him, that is. But Cao Ang is different. At least Cao Cao and the Yanzhou army, the vast majority of Yanzhou army generals and counselors, were satisfied with Cao Ang, that was enough. Yes, they did not think that he was Ma Chao and Sun Ce's opponent. Cao Ang was not good enough to really face those two people. But among the many sons of his lord, Cao Ang is indeed a son
It's very good, indeed. When it comes to Sun Ce's Jiangdong Army, let alone Jiangdong. Sun Ce is no longer there. Even if it is Sun Quan, he is not a match for Ma Chao. In many places, he is not as good as his brother. That's right. Speaking of Sun Quan's words, he can still be successful. Even Ma Chao believes that Sun Ce's words are not only able to be successful.
It is indeed Sun Quan cannot compare to this. He is definitely able to maintain his success, that's true. Even a treacherous hero like Cao Cao admits that "the birth of a child should be like Sun Zhongmou". Even if Sun Quan is indeed a junior, that's right. After all, he and Sun Jian are considered brothers, that's true. But this is actually more of a praise for Sun Quan. And his meaning is that his son may not be able to compare with Sun Quan in this regard. The facts have proved that Sun Quan is indeed not doing this.
Wrong, better than Cao Pi. For Cao Cao, he hoped that his son could defend the foundation he left behind. Don’t talk about expanding territory, at least protecting his own territory. In fact, this is not easy, that is. But to be honest, Cao Pi is not as good as Sun Quan in this, so I won’t explain it in detail. He is the one who can compete with Cao Cao and Liu Bei.
It is absolutely not underestimated. Cao Cao is not good at all, so what happened in the Battle of Red Cliff. Yes, it is true that Liu Bei has made efforts, but to be honest, he has to rely on Jiangdong, and the people are the main force and the navy are the protagonists. Without Sun Quan, Zhou Yu and the others, just Liu Bei and the others, to be honest, they are no match for Cao's army, which is true.
You have to admit this. Just relying on Liu Bei's side, can they be the opponent of the 200,000 Cao army? In addition, Sun Quan and Jiangdong have been working hard, but it is not. Without Sun Quan, Zhou Yu, Lu Su, and Huang Gai, those generals, the Battle of Red Cliff will be over. If you have to ask Zhuge Liang or something, you must have watched too many Romance and TV series. In real history, the Battle of Red Cliff has not had that much to do with Zhuge Liang. This is really. In Jiangdong, the family background is all
It's really different if you take it out. Of course, Liu Bei and Liu Da'er didn't work hard, and they also had so many ten thousand people. But to be honest, how could they compare with Jiangdong? Who is the leader and who is the second? You can see at a glance. To be honest, in the Battle of Red Cliff in history, the Jiangdong army definitely accounted for more than 80%. So when it comes to Liu Bei, it's true.
It's less than 20%, that's it. So you know that no one has more than 80% of the people in Jiangdong, but you rely on your Liu Da'er who can compete with the Cao army? Not to mention the other person's 200,000 troops, even if it's half or 100,000, you can do better than others? Even if they are indeed not very good, they are not as good as Liu Bei's side. But your ten thousand to others, or if they are 100,000, you really don't have to be too relaxed. Don't say that you win.
It would be great if there was no defeat. If the army was destroyed, it would be great if it was not completely destroyed. That's right. So it's not all. It's not all because of Jiangdong. Liu Da'er's side was not as powerful as Jiangdong in Chibi, but he definitely took a big advantage. How many counties did Jingzhou allow them to take up? Speaking of which, this was borrowed by Liu Da'er's side, and that meant it was the territory of Jiangdong. As a result, so many things happened afterwards, and this hidden danger had actually been laid long ago. Of course, even if it was a
At first, Jingzhou was not borrowed. Just like Sun Quan, he would also be able to send troops to find opportunities. As long as he could seize Jingzhou, it would be a good thing for him to the Jiangdong army. This is indeed. Unfortunately, they were not like Lu Su. At least he knew that it was not that Jingzhou could not be occupied. If he could take over that place, it would definitely be good. To be honest, if you get along well with Liu Bei, this is what Jiangdong needs to do more.
If you want it, this shows Lu Su's vision. He really does not advocate force to seize Jingzhou. And the other few, whether it is Zhou Yu, Lu Meng, or Lu Xun, actually they all think it is right to fight against Liu Bei and seize Jingzhou. This is a big mistake if they can't say that their ideas are wrong, but to be honest, only Lu Su is a real strategist, he can see that it is more
Many, you have to admit this. So when Lu Su was still there, even if Jiangdong and Liu Bei had a bad relationship, he could still maintain it. Even if he had the last little revolutionary relationship, that little relationship could still be maintained. But when the person was gone, in fact, the so-called Sun-Liu alliance should be said to be completely finished. Otherwise, Lu Su's contribution was not small and he was the most attractive person, this is really. He still has to be convinced that he still said that he still said that he still said that.
When he was there, the man could not only persuade Sun Quan, but also Zhou Yu, which was unusual. Although Zhou Yu was in poor health in the end, this was correct, but the man did not think that he was like Lu Su, who was so good as Liu Bei, and he advocated taking Jingzhou by force. That was really true. Zhou Yu's idea was that if you don't return to your territory, then you will be the one who is on your side.
It was just to send troops. Lu Su was really different. He had just thought that Liu Bei would return Jingzhou, and if that was the case, everyone would be happy. But Liu Bei never returned. He ran away several times and had no choice, but he didn't advocate just taking it with force and fighting with Liu Bei's side. He never thought about that. As for the small fight, Lu Su didn't think that there was anything big.
After all, Liu Bei was in a disadvantaged position. He was trying to take Jingzhou. As long as both sides did not break up, this was still above the bottom line. For him, this was actually OK, but he did not advocate breaking up. In that case, it would be of no benefit to anyone, but it would only be good to the north. The fact is that when Lu Su was there, no matter how dirty Sun and Liu were, they would not break up or fight in the end. But after he passed away, when Lu Meng became the governor, he was completely fine.
It has changed. The person is so different from Lu Su. Although Lu Meng is a rare general with both civil and military skills, he does not have Lu Su's strategic vision. The latter is an alliance that has been maintained so much, and it is finally destroyed in the hands of Lu Ziming. To be honest, Lu Meng doesn't know anything? He doesn't know anything? Is it possible? But he still did it without hesitation,
Speaking of which, it's just for himself. Don't look at Lu Meng, who is a soldier for three days, or who is not a soldier, or what is wrong, is all praised by Wu Xia Ameng, that's right. He is a typical example. He has grown from a military general to a general with both civil and military skills. That's really great. But to be honest, he is not as good as Lu Su. Just because he is more for himself, Lu Su's words are less than him, just like
In this way, Lu Su maintained the Sun-Liu alliance in such a way. He must have been for Liu Bei, but more for his own side. Speaking of which, he knew very well that the biggest enemy in Jiangdong was the north, not Liu Bei, and this was the fundamental. Unless one day, the strongest one became Liu Bei, not the north, then it naturally changed. Jiangdong's biggest enemy became him, Liu Da Er, and no longer the north, that's it. But after the battle of Jingzhou, it completely changed, and Liu Bei's side changed from an ally to an enemy. This is the ultimate
It's not what he wanted to see, even if Lu Su is no longer there. But this cannot be said that Lu Meng and the others were wrong to do that. At least Sun Quan was still happy to see it. After all, his side took several counties in Jingzhou, and even Guan Yu was killed in the end. His side took advantage of it. As for Liu Bei, their side suffered a lot of losses, too much. But later, Liu Bei fought in Yiling again, and this
It was really a big deal. Other battles were the only battles between Guandu and Chibi, plus the Battle of Yiling, which were the three major battles during the Three Kingdoms period, which shows the influence of the Battle of Yiling.
Chapter completed!