"What are the reasons why you say that the conditions for our country to develop a planned economy are not mature?"

Chen Rongru asked very seriously. His interest in this closed disciple recommended by Director Zhang to him was getting bigger and bigger. The debate about planned economy and commodity economy is quite fashionable nowadays, and it is not surprising that Feng Xiaochen can say a few words. But Feng Xiaochen thought that the conditions for the planned economy were immature as soon as he opened his mouth. This was a new point of view, so new that Chen Rongru felt that he needed to listen carefully.

Regarding this issue, Feng Xiaochen had discussed it with some scholars in his previous life, so he was not nervous at this time and said calmly:

"The idea of ​​planned economy originated from Marx. The purpose of his proposal was to avoid the uncoordinated contradictions in the development of the two major categories in the capitalist economy, and thus completely eliminate the repeated economic crisis. This idea became a realistic national economic management system through Lenin's practice and was applied in socialist countries such as the Soviet Union and our country.

However, whether it is Marx's idea or Lenin's idea, the planned economy must be based on pure public ownership, because only in this way can we ensure that all economic entities are fully obeyed by the planning authorities and will not interfere with the implementation of the plan because of the pursuit of self-interest. In this sense, public ownership, and pure public ownership, are the basis of the planned economic system."

"You mean, we now allow multiple economic forms to coexist, destroying this foundation?" Chen Rongru asked.

Feng Xiaochen shook his head and said, "I don't mean that. I think that even before the reform and opening up, we never had pure public ownership. Our entire national economy was divided into different levels and occupied by tens of thousands of places and enterprises."

Chen Rongru thought about it for a while and said with a smile: "This statement is interesting. Do you think that only by allowing the state to receive all its power to the central government can it be considered as pure public ownership?"

"That's true." Feng Xiaochen said, "Teacher Shen, let me give you an example. At this time last year, I went to Mingzhou Province to handle a case. This case is very simple, the Lecheng City Government secretly condoned and even instructed local farmers to obstruct the construction of the Daethylene project, so as to threaten the State Economic Commission to approve them to launch a TV factory.

According to the assumption of the public ownership economy, this kind of thing should not happen at all, because Lecheng ethylene is a national project, while Lecheng government is a national first-level government, so how can it be that it will be demolished by itself? But such things happened just now, and similar things are not new in various regions and industries.

We usually say that means of production are owned by the whole people, but in fact it is not the case. Lecheng ethylene belongs to the State Economic Commission, and Lecheng TV Factory belongs to the Lecheng Government. These are two completely different stakeholders. It is impossible to achieve consistency between them, but they can only adopt the method of exchange of interests to achieve cooperation.

In the end, the State Economic Commission had to approve the construction of Lecheng TV Factory. This was not a planned economy management model, but a typical market economy model, because the two parties achieved transactions through exchange of interests."

Chen Rongru sorted out what Feng Xiaochen said in his mind and concluded: "You mean, can you say that the planned economy requires that all economic entities have consistent interests and there is no bargaining process. And our country, of course, is the same for other socialist countries. All places or enterprises have their own interests. They have to bargain with the state in the process of implementing the national plan. In this way, this economic model cannot be regarded as a planned economy, but has the characteristics of a market economy."

"That's what it means." Feng Xiaochen said, "The market economy uses money as the general equivalent of transactions, while the bargaining within our system uses investment, raw material supply, leadership positions, employee production enthusiasm, etc. as the general equivalents. If you promise me the conditions, I will work hard to make your plan come true. If you don't agree to my conditions, I will use various methods to make your plan unable to be completed.

Using money as a general equivalent, at least the value is clear, and everything can be marked clearly. And using jobs, production enthusiasm and other things as general equivalents, the value is vague. If you agree to my conditions, I can continue to work hard so that more conditions can be put forward. In this way, the planned economy is no longer discussed and the advantages of the market economy cannot be exerted. This is the worst model."

"It's right!" Chen Rongru looked happy. The views mentioned by Feng Xiaochen were actually what Chen Rongru had thought about. Perhaps it was because of the limitations of the old thinking, or perhaps because he subconsciously felt that the planned economy was an impossible option to cross out, and he did not think about this issue so thoroughly. Feng Xiaochen believed that the planned economy was unsustainable from the beginning, so his thinking was more open and bold, which inspired Chen Rongru.

"Since a region is a stakeholder and an enterprise is also a stakeholder, then the responsibilities, rights, and interests of each entity should be clarified. If you want to gain benefits, you must assume obligations. All transactions are measured in currency, which in your words is called clearly marked price. This idea is indeed a bit new." Chen Rong Confucian and Taoist.

Feng Xiaochen said: "The advantage of clearly labeling prices is that a project can be bid by different entities. Whoever offers the lowest price and the best quality will be handed over to whom. Whether it is a state-owned enterprise, a township enterprise, or even a private enterprise, can undertake the national project if conditions permit. In this way, the bureaucratic style of state-owned enterprises must be changed, otherwise it will lag behind township enterprises and private enterprises in the competition. For those companies that are not enterprising and fail in competition, even state-owned enterprises, they must be allowed to go bankrupt, go bankrupt, and exit the market..."

"Stop, stop!" Chen Rongru had to stop Feng Xiaochen. He shook his head and said helplessly: "Xiao Feng, your thoughts are indeed active enough. However, you should slow down and not be too impatient. The question of whether state-owned enterprises can go bankrupt is still relatively sensitive. As a graduate student, it is not appropriate to get involved in this sensitive theoretical problem now."

"Uh..." Feng Xiaochen was speechless. If it weren't for Chen Rongru's stopping him, he would have almost wanted to say that state-owned enterprises could not only go bankrupt, but also merged by other economic forms. This was a rebellious view in this era. Chen Rongru stopped him in time, of course, not because he was afraid that the conversation between them would be leaked, but because he reminded him not to say this in other occasions, nor to regard this kind of idea as a research direction.

It is not that easy to make society accept a new concept. After all, China has been engaged in a planned economy for more than 30 years, and it is inevitable that many people will not understand it if they have to deny it all at once and turn to a market economy. Moreover, in this transition process, a series of changes in ownership and management rights are involved, which cannot be completed overnight. Nowadays, it is already very bold to propose a theory like "planned commodity economy". How many obstacles need to be overcome to introduce such a theory is simply unimaginable.

"Xiao Feng, it seems that you are indeed a young man with active thinking and courage to think. Director Zhang has read you wrong. Questions about the goals, methods and steps of China's economic system reform are worth discussing. In the next three years, you still have time to study these issues. However, some problems are currently subject to theoretical restrictions. It is okay to think about it yourself, but don't speak rashly. Do you understand?" Chen Rongru Yu reminded earnestly.

Feng Xiaochen nodded and said, "I understand, Teacher Shen, don't worry, I will pay attention."

Feng Xiaochen actually did not agree with the theoretical forbidden zones that Chen Rongru said. He knew that these forbidden zones were only temporary. As the reform gradually deepened, today's forbidden zones may become a smooth road tomorrow. He was not convenient to talk directly to Chen Rongru about these things, so he would pretend to be well-behaved and agreed before talking about them.

Chen Rongru didn't know what Feng Xiaochen was thinking. Seeing that he agreed so readily, he was not as paranoid as some young people, he was quite satisfied. He said, "Xiao Feng is good, no wonder your Director Zhang insisted on accepting you. Do you know that you have seen farther than me in many issues, and it is more than enough to be my teacher."

Feng Xiaochen sweated a little and quickly said, "Teacher Shen is so proud of me. I am just a junior high school graduate."

Of course, what Chen Rongru said just now was a bit exaggerated, and the purpose was to inspire Feng Xiaochen's self-confidence, and perhaps to show his humility. As Feng Xiaochen said:

"Indeed, your academic qualifications are a flaw. You lack systematic training in economics, and some theoretical concepts are still very vague. This is your flaw. After the start of school, you must carefully add economics courses. I will give you some book lists, and you can also take time to the Institute of Economics and Philosophy to listen to classes and strengthen your theoretical literacy. When the right time is right, I will take you to some meetings and conduct research below to combine theory and practice."

"Thank you Teacher Shen for your cultivation." Feng Xiaochen said.

Chen Rongru Religion: "I am your mentor, and these things should be done. By the way, Xiao Feng, if you have any difficulties in life, you can also ask me and I will try my best to help you solve them. In the next three years, we will be comrades in the same team. I hope we can cooperate happily."
Chapter completed!