Chapter 3486 Different choices
Zhao Yun was a little surprised.
He didn't expect that Liu Ye was talking about this...
Everyone has different perspectives on the problem. If Liu Ye speaks completely from the perspective of Shandong, then Zhao Yun will naturally not want to listen. However, Liu Ye’s narration is objective and practical, which makes Zhao Yun think about it.
Because he is Zhao Yun.
If it was an ordinary general, even if Liu Ye could understand these things, he could not understand them after thinking for a while, so he would naturally give up and stop thinking about it.
Zhao Yun likes to think, learn, and is good at summarizing. When the problem is in front of him, Zhao Yun's choice is to try to think first and find the answer, rather than just avoiding or putting it aside.
Liu Ye looked at Zhao Yun's expression and smiled slightly.
The rhetoric he prepared along the way has now completely abandoned it. What he and Zhao Yun said now were all the thoughts that he had come to see Zhao Yun.
Liu Ye knew what he was doing in Youzhou, but after a lot of hardships, he encountered such a snow disaster. After seeing the Cavalry Army recovering disasters and reappearing order, his mentality changed slightly.
Shandong says that the northern part of Guanzhong is full of Human habits and fishy smell. But now when the Youzhou land is suffering, where are those elegant and famous scholars?
The people of Youzhou now need more Zhihu from Shandong. They are elegant and elegant. Although the cavalry is not very polite, can they survive this severe winter?
What is a big man?
Perhaps there are different answers in different people's hearts.
However, for the children of the gentry, especially the royal family, the mysterious veil on the emperor may not have much effect.
The same is true for Liu Ye.
He had met the emperor and knew what kind of person he was.
If it was in a peaceful and prosperous era, then Emperor Liu Xie would be a good emperor.
Because in peacetime, all order is basically stable. The less the emperor intervenes, there are not many local problems in counties and counties. Except for the emperor's orders to recruit disaster relief in the time of disaster, other matters can generally be handled within counties.
However, in the current turmoil in the world, the disadvantage of the emperor's lack of ability is very fatal.
If the emperor cannot gather the hearts of all the princes, he will inevitably be unable to control the chaos in the local area.
Moreover, Liu Ye is not good to talk directly to Emperor Liu Xie about these problems!
One aspect is that if Liu Ye said that if there was any problem and Liu Xie could not protect Liu Ye, wouldn’t this mean that Liu Ye was seeking death?
Another aspect is that even if Liu Ye is not afraid of making suggestions, but Liu Xie doesn’t understand it, or does not do it after understanding it, isn’t it useless?
Therefore, Liu Ye's attitude towards Emperor Liu Xie was actually similar to his performance in history. He clicked and clicked until he finished, without saying much, without explaining much, let alone forcing him.
The emperor asked him to come to Zhao Yun with an edict, and Liu Ye came to the order.
So it can be said that after arriving in Ji County, Liu Ye's mission was basically over, and all that was left was a finale. As for whether Zhao Yun was willing to accept the edict, it was Zhao Yun's business. Liu Ye could not control it and could not sign the edict on behalf of Zhao Yun.
The reason why Liu Ye did not return immediately was at the beginning because he also wanted to take this opportunity to meet Zhao Yun, and to understand more intuitively about the situation of the Cavalry Army, so as to avoid asking questions after returning, which would somewhat lose the style of a famous scholar. However, when he actually saw the Cavalry Army treating these people in Youzhou, his heart was touched.
Liu Ye is a royal relative, but is his clan relative...
As for the aristocratic families, there is no question.
So Liu Ye didn't just stand on the high place and sigh, he took off his brocade robe, picked up his pen and ink, and handled affairs with the minor officials in the cavalry army...
Liu Ye felt that the Cavalry Army was different from what he originally imagined.
On the other hand, it was Liu Ye's behavior that made Zhao Yun feel that Liu Ye was different from those famous Shandong scholars.
This is why Zhao Yun saw Liu Ye, and now Liu Ye is "pointing" Zhao Yun...
Liu Ye didn't say much, but he was all on the key points.
Youzhou belongs to the border and is actually quite different from Bingzhou Liangzhou.
The reason why it is better than Bingliang is that the distance between Youzhou and Jizhou is relatively close. The people of Jizhou are afraid that once they completely lose Youzhou, they will lose the barrier to the north. Therefore, in terms of their attitude towards Youzhou, it is not as indifferent as they treat Bingliang.
People in Jizhou think that it is enough to have a little Youzhou, so it is optional for Liaodong and Lelang.
People in Yuzhou think it doesn’t matter if Youzhou is gone. Anyway, the sky is falling, aren’t there still people from Jizhou holding on?
The aristocrats in the entire Han Central Plains area, due to the rise of the landlord class, lost interest in the land of high-yield Zhuanghe, and did not want to expand to the outside world at all.
On the contrary, because the frontier was bitter and cold and life was difficult, during the feudal dynasty, once the power on the frontier expanded, whether internal or external, it would inevitably erode the Central Plains under such unequal treatment.
Don’t worry about lack of weight but not unevenness.
This is the truth that the ancestors of China understood, but the Gini index still rose wildly in every feudal dynasty!
Liu Ye pointed this problem.
The Cavalry Army grew up in the frontiers of the Han Dynasty and in those areas despised by the Central Plains. The strategies formulated were also biased towards the forgotten people who had been oppressed before, so just like Zhao Yun treating these affected people in Youzhou, they will soon receive support and response.
But……
Jizhou was not affected by the disaster.
Those who had been in the Han Dynasty for three or four hundred years, at least after Liu Xiu established his capital in Luoyang, began to watch the decline of the landlord class of the frontier with his hands and eyes, and those who enjoyed the preferential treatment of the gentry and occupied the bureaucratic government institutions would be willing to accept the system of cavalry?
Seeing that Zhao Yun was silent, Liu Ye did not wait for Zhao Yun to answer, and continued, "Since the cavalry stood in Guanzhong, the people who joined the cavalry were mostly poor. Zheng Gong was mostly wandering in the North Sea, and the water mirror and Jingzhou were always wandering, and they were not accepted in the Central Plains. It was not their bad luck, but like the people in the disaster, they had enough food and clothing! But what about Ji Yu? If they were to lose food and clothing, they would hate them. If they wanted to be enough, they would be both quiet and resentful. With the wisdom of the general, they could be distinguished."
Although Liu Ye was not very clear and did not extract an accurate expression, he undoubtedly pointed out the biggest contradiction between Guanzhong and Shandong at present, that is, the difference between the production system and the production relationship!
Some people later said that there were only gentry families during the Jin and Tang dynasties, but in fact this was not the case. Everything has a stage of derivation and development, and one period or a time point cannot be intercepted separately to represent all. Yes, during the Jin and Tang dynasties, gentry families were indeed the strongest and most representative, but the root cause was founded during the Han Dynasty, especially during the Eastern Han Dynasty...
During the Eastern Han Dynasty, land owners appeared in land annexation. At the same time, because books are rare, classics are basically circulated in the door. Or circles are also fine, that is, the relationship between teachers and students, or they are called teachers.
The large and small landlord classes monopolized the means of production and restricted the dissemination of knowledge. Governing the country requires these two aspects, so it is equivalent to monopolizing the bureaucratic position.
During the Han Dynasty, all the family members became officials, and one family occupied a region. Even if the newborn was born, they naturally arised even if they had worked for the seniority and benefits.
As these gentry and gentry gradually grew, they naturally endorsed their class in the court and fought for more benefits. During the reign of Emperor Ling of Han, these people wanted money and wealth, people, officials, culture and culture, and force, and what else did the court do?
Emperor Ling of Han wanted to take care of it, but he could no longer take care of it.
Zhao Yun obviously could not solve such a problem, so Zhao Yun was still silent and frowned.
"Under the cavalry, there were people from Jingxiang and descendants of Yingchuan," Liu Ye said slowly, "When the cavalry occupied Guanzhong, the people from Jingxiang and Yingchuan could work together. In Guanzhong, Jingxiang and Yingchuan were all external enemies. However, if the cavalry entered the Central Plains... what is outside and what is inside? Jingxiang sought to Jingxiang, and Yingchuan worshipped Yingchuan, and also fought against each other in the current Han Central Plains, Shandong, and the gateways. What is the difference?"
Zhao Yun frowned and said, "If people from Shandong do not know the truth, what's wrong with removing the bad guys and saving good things?"
Liu Ye said frankly: "The people in Shandong are now many of them. If you talk about good and bad, it may not be necessary. Six and six, can you distinguish between good and bad? The people of Yingchuan plan under the prime minister, return to the prime minister, and offer the cavalry, and make plans to speak of the best and bad. However, isn't it a pity to judge the good and bad by this action?"
After any class meets food and clothing, it will inevitably seek more benefits and greater authority.
This is a necessity.
Because as long as human society still has exploitation and a system to extract surplus value, this kind of problem will inevitably occur.
Aristocratic families and powerful families grew up from the blood of the Han Dynasty and tasted the sweet taste of monopolizing the political and economic fields. How could they give up easily?
Liu Ye’s meaning is very simple. The children of the gentry who can cooperate with the cavalry are not completely supported by the cavalry system because of them, but their families are scattering bets, just like bargaining chips on the six blogs.
There is also fierce competition among the powerful families, such as the families that had bet on Yuan before...
If you hit the point, you will be full of money, but if you fail, you will lose everything.
This is where the interests of the children of the gentry and the princes are consistent, so Liu Ye said that the political harmony in the cavalry is now, and the factions cooperate with each other. That is because it was when the profits were high, just like when Yuan Shao was also a role model in the world?
"The Prime Minister's current decay is not the Prime Minister's ability, but the Prime Minister's ability." Liu Ye shook his head slightly, "If the Prime Minister's ability is not, and the power is divided into counties, it is a praise from the world! And the Prime Minister now hates Shandong, and wants to gather the power of Shandong to resist Guanzhong! What Shandong hates is not Guanzhong, but the word "Collection"! I dare to ask the general, if the cavalry obtains the Central Plains, is it possible or not? Is it evil or not?"
The gentry family hoped to assist a "wise ruler" and then maximize their value, but after assisting the wise ruler, conflicts of interest will inevitably arise. Local tyrants hoped to appear like Emperor Wen of Han and Emperor Guangwu, who would disarmament and simplify administration, recuperate, and pay attention to agriculture and sedimentary affairs, so that the interests of the landlord class could be greatly guaranteed.
Simply put, these local gentry hope to be a "wise monarch", but at the same time they are a "weak emperor"!
Because the economic foundation of the aristocratic family is the manor economy produced by annexing a large amount of land. The targets of their annexing are self-cultivating farmers, and self-cultivating farmers are the fundamental economic foundation of the central royal family. The taxes and military service of the central government need self-cultivating farmers to bear, which makes the aristocratic family's manor economy completely conflicting with the central government's economy.
So when Cao Wei began to crack down on the powerful and strengthen centralization in history, the clans began to be dissatisfied. Later, the Sima family jumped out. These gentry tyrants either helped Sima cover up or simply supported him secretly. I really thought that Sima raised his arms and shouted, and even if he was a dead man, he would gather in the crowd. Raising dead man also requires money, time and place. Guess what Cao family is so cautious. After checking the Sima family several times, why can't the place where these dead man hide?
In the cavalry army, they now belong to the small powerful, small landlord class, representatives of poor scholars, and children of the other branches. These people are not like the aristocratic families, which are a combination of large bureaucrats and large families. Their demands on power are not high for the time being. The demands at this stage are more pragmatic, because the elites from small landlords have become no way out and the upward path is blocked. They long for opportunities and hope that a wise monarch can promote them, hoping to break through the monopoly of the great gentry and the great tyrants in the officialdom and gain the opportunity to achieve success.
"The people of Youzhou have no food and clothing today, but seek food and clothing today, but seek family business tomorrow." Liu Ye said, "Why is this not the world like this in Youzhou? What the cavalry can do is to Guanzhong, Youzhou, but can it be enough for the world?"
Liu Ye is talking about "people", but in fact, all these "people" do not refer to civilians.
Although history was actually created by the people, neither Liu Ye nor Zhao Yun have any awareness of this at present.
Like other small groups of elites, Zhao Yun initially pushed them to join the melee in the late Han Dynasty. It was not a lofty ideal, but most of them were eager to "wallowers have their own fields". It was enough to be able to work with peace of mind and live a quiet life...
But now has Zhao Yun thought about going further?
some.
So what about the others?
"Emperor Xiaoling, why did he establish the eight lieutenants of Xiyuan?" Liu Ye said, "It's not that the superior wants to take charge of the army and control the local area. Why is the reason why the emperor's entrusted it? Is it not human? This is just one or two! The exhaustion of the Western Garden is the army! If the Western Garden is to be established, where does the soldiers come from? It's the people of the local area. Do the local area want to establish the Western Garden? If Xiaoling does not establish, the prime minister cannot, what can the cavalry stand up? "
Zhao Yun frowned.
Liu Ye was just talking about Emperor Ling of Han on the surface, but Zhao Yun knew what Liu Ye really wanted to say...
The fundamental reason for the central royal family in all dynasties was that they had military power. By the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, the Han Dynasty wanted to regain military power, but in fact, the family rebounded quickly and planned the situation. This is something that everyone knows, but the second half of what Liu Ye said was something that Zhao Yun did not expect.
The reason why Emperor Ling of Han failed was not only because of his own ability, nor was he that a eunuch would manage the army. But the more important factor was that if Emperor Ling of Han wanted to rebuild an army, he needed a source of troops to serve and food and supplies to support the army. To be simple, he had to have enough self-cultivated farmers to pay taxes, but at this time, the self-cultivated farmers in the countryside were messy due to the annexation and division of the family. The officials of the prefectures and counties responsible for taxation and the grassroots officials of the troops were also old officials of the family. If they were loyal to the family than the court, how could they support Emperor Ling of Han to recruit soldiers successfully?
So the eight captains in Xiyuan are broken from the root!
So what about Cao Cao and Fei Qian?
Where did Cao Cao's roots and Fei Qian's roots, that is, where did the source of troops come from?
Obviously, Cao Cao's foundation is the 300,000 Qingzhou Yellow Turbans.
Although it seems on the surface that Cao Cao controlled these Qingzhou soldiers, from another perspective, did these Qingzhou Yellow Turbans realize their initial desire to obtain means of production and live in an orderly manner? Did these Qingzhou soldiers break the land control chain under Cao Cao, which was originally a powerful local family?
The same is true for the cavalry.
The demographic dividend of Feiqian's first wave was the refugees of Heluo, the Baibo army, and then the Black Mountain bandits. These people laid the military power of Feiqian's foundation, and the Xiliang army and Bingzhou old soldiers accepted later were just icing on the cake.
Therefore, Liu Ye believes that Fei Qian and Cao Cao's military structures are actually quite different.
The problems that Cao Cao is facing in Shandong are the same when Fei Qian comes. Will Fei Qian take over the troops from Shandong or not?
If you collect, there will definitely be problems.
If you don't accept it, there will be problems.
After Liu Ye said this, he stopped and said no more.
Just like Liu Ye’s previous habits, he just pointed out the problem...
This is actually a habit of "Shandong celebrities". They will tell questions, which are often free at this time, but if they want to solve the problem, they can't solve it, or they need to pay an additional cost. After all, in Shandong, knowledge is quite expensive.
Zhao Yun frowned and thought, and then suddenly opened his eyebrows and smiled after a moment, shook his head and said, "What Mr. Husband said is indeed the point... However, Mr. Husband has neglected one thing...
Liu Ye was stunned for a moment and couldn't help asking: "Where is the omission?"
Zhao Yun stretched out his hand, first pressed it from top to bottom, and then raised it from bottom to top. "In Shandong, most people choose soldiers and people, but in Guanzhong, they choose soldiers and officials! This is a big difference!"
This time it was Liu Ye who was stunned.
He originally saw Zhao Yun. Although he did not bring an edict, he actually wanted to use words to shake Zhao Yun's mind. So what he said was seven true and three false. He thought that even if Zhao Yun could find the flaws, it would be the next thing to do. Liu Ye could take this opportunity to learn more information and then find more flaws, so that he could become his bargaining chips. Whether he continued to bet in Shandong or moved to the place where the cavalry was, he could have a higher position...
Chapter completed!