Zhang Zichen and Ding Xinghua both changed jobs and went to politics. During this period, they also spent some energy studying the history and social economy of China in the old time and space. They are absolute supporters of the public ownership system of land. However, because the two of them are soldiers and speak more straightforwardly, they inevitably have some gunpowder smell in their words.

Gu Ruipeng couldn't help but get angry and said, "According to this statement, what else should the law do? As long as it doesn't match our interests, it will be solved directly by violence. Kill all the opponents, and the rest will only shout that the best situation is to live forever."

Seeing that the two sides were getting more and more choking, Xia Bohai hurriedly made a table, interrupting their argument, and said, "I hope everyone will calm down. The discussion at the Executive Committee meeting is about matters, not targeting individuals, and not making it a dispute of intention."

Qin Zheng also said: "Yes, I hope everyone should pay attention to their own words when speaking, and do not interpret the words of others too much, only for things, not for people."

After saying that, Zhang Zichen, Ding Xinghua, and Gu Ruipeng were not good at talking anymore, and the venue was a little unstoppable for a while.

At this time, the Minister of Agriculture Zeng Dongdao: "Let me give you some personal opinions. I admit that there must be some good people among the landlords, and to be honest, in ancient China, many public business operations for building bridges and roads in the local area were paid by landlords and squires. Some landlords are not an exaggeration to say that they are great charitable people. However, as a class, landlords represent the old land system, a kind of restriction on mobile capital, fighting the process of industrialization, and violating historical development; they are a backward class that possesses real estate property rights, narrows the flow of real estate capital, and hinders the development of productivity. Therefore, whether it is a good landlord or a bad landlord, it is an obstacle to our industrialization, and it is also a resistance to China's prosperity and strength. Overall, this class must be eliminated."

Li Songchen also said: "I also have a few opinions. I hope everyone will seriously consider that we want to seize the rule of China, but relying solely on our own strength is not enough. We only have more than 6,000 people. How many things can we do must rely on a local social group. What are the ruling groups we can rely on? This is the object we want to overthrow; the landlord group? They are the immediate interests of the current society and cannot be based on our revolution; the national bourgeois group and the working class group are still very weak now, because they are the national bourgeois group, which is basically the comprador group, and they can almost be ignored; therefore, the only thing we can rely on to fight for now is the peasant group, so the problem arises. If we want to obtain the support of the peasant group, we can only adopt the public ownership system of land and allocate the land to the peasants. It can be said that this is our only choice."

After listening to their words, everyone else fell into thinking. Zeng Dong is the current Minister of Agriculture, while Li Songchen is the former Minister of Agriculture. They are the two of them know the best about rural affairs and have also studied the historical and political economy of the old time and space. Therefore, their words are very convincing. Even if someone disagrees with their views, they cannot find a reasonable reason to refute them for the time being.

After a while, Gu Ruipeng said again: "I just said that I do not oppose the implementation of public ownership of land. I also agree that the law is indeed serving the ruling class, but at least fairness must be guaranteed, even if it is only superficial. It is indeed easy and simple to use tough means to avoid landlords' land, but whether the cost is the lowest is questionable. First, it is easy to lead to the proliferation of national violence and use administrative orders to replace the law. Such a simple and crude method has great consequences. This has also been proven in the old time and space; second, it is easy to push some enlightened landlords, gentry, even officials of the Qing court, and national bourgeoisie to our opposite side, which will make the Qing court seize our pain, and the open, civilized, and advanced image we have finally established cannot be said to be destroyed, but it will definitely be greatly affected."

After Gu Ruipeng finished speaking, the venue was silent again. Although Zhang Zichen and Ding Xinghua disagreed with Gu Ruipeng's opinion, it was really hard to refute the sentence "Using administrative orders to replace the law, such a simple and crude method will cause great consequences." Because both of them are from modern society, their understanding of legal awareness is indeed much deeper than that of people in this era.

At this time, Li Songchen said: "I have a suggestion that although it will increase our workload, I think it is necessary. For those landlords who have done more evil and have a large population, such as Wangjiazhai, they will be directly destroyed and all their land and property will be confiscated. What is the execution of those who commit crimes? For some landlords who have a good reputation in the local area, have less exploitation of farmers, and have done some good deeds in the village, they can provide appropriate compensation and only confiscate the land, so that they can still keep their property."

Minister of Finance Jia Zhenzhao frowned and said, "Isn't this a transformed image and a redemption of land?"

Li Songchen shook his head and said, "Of course it is not a redemption of land. The compensation I mentioned is not necessarily monetary compensation, but it can also be in other aspects, such as rent reduction and military service reduction. And according to our understanding, in this era, only a few landlords with good reputation are only a very small number of people, so our expenses will not be too much. With our current financial resources, it is completely affordable. There are quite a few landlords like Wangjiazhai who do evil in the local area. Some landlords do more evil and have great public resentment like Wangjiazhai, but they have also done some bad things, but the degree is different. This requires us to conduct careful and detailed investigations and impose different punishments according to the degree of evil. Therefore, I suggest that we can establish a similar rebellion trial agency like the temporary arbitration court we established, led by the Ministry of Justice and assisted by the Ministry of Agriculture to deal with these things."

Xia Bohai, Qin Zheng and others exchanged glances with each other and understood what Li Songchen meant. To put it bluntly, it was just to find a legitimate reason, so that it could be said that it was a law-based act, which was reasonable at the legal level. In fact, every time traveler knew that the landlord class was definitely more bad and less good, so there was no need to find even. It was completely possible to confiscate the landlords' land with legal reasons.

Of course, in fact, such practices have limited moral help to the Time Travel Group. After all, in this era, it is natural for landlords to occupy land. Although everyone knows that many large landlords are bullies in the local area, committing evil and committing many evils, this is the default rule of the whole society. Therefore, in this era, the gentry, business people, and Qing officials, the Time Travel Group is a large-scale confiscation of the landlord's land, so that they will not be legal or illegal. However, within the Time Travel Group, it is a manifestation of acts of doing things in accordance with the law and respecting the law, so that they can be accepted in their hearts. In addition, from a social sense, the use of legal means rather than administrative power orders and government violence is indeed a manifestation of progress.

Xia Bohai said: "This idea is good, but once it is carried out, the workload is quite large. And now the Ministry of Justice is formulating our [Provisional Contract] and other legal provisions, as well as the work of the Provisional Arbitration Tribunal. Are they busy?"

Gu Ruipeng hurriedly said, "I'm so busy that I'll definitely be busy, and it will definitely not affect other jobs."

As Gu Ruipeng said, he opposed the public ownership system of land at all, but the use of administrative power commands and not to solve the land problem from a legal perspective. Li Songchen's suggestion is exactly what he wants. If he can win the power to judge landlords, it will undoubtedly greatly expand the power of the Ministry of Justice. Although the Ministry of Justice established an interim arbitration court, there were only more than 6,000 time travelers, and how many people could commit crimes. Therefore, so far, the temporary arbitration court has received no 10 cases, and as a result, the temporary arbitration court has almost become an empty shell. Now the main job of the Ministry of Justice is to compile various legal provisions of the time travel group.

These tasks are not unimportant, but they have almost no influence in the Time Travel Group. Now the Ministry of Justice has a full sense of existence, relying entirely on an empty temporary arbitration court. Seeing other marginal departments gradually getting rid of their marginal status, the Ministry of Justice also has a serious sense of crisis. If we can win the power to judge landlords this time, it is of course very important for the Ministry of Justice. Therefore, no matter how difficult it is, the Ministry of Justice must follow this task.

Xia Bohai nodded and said, "Then this task will be handed over to the Ministry of Justice. I hope the Ministry of Justice will come up with a draft of relevant laws and a plan to complete this task as soon as possible. We can negotiate and cooperate more with the Ministry of Agriculture, but the work of [Provisional Contract] cannot be stopped and must be completed on time."

Gu Ruipeng said: "Okay, after the meeting, I will arrange it immediately and complete the task on time."

Xia Bohai said again: "Does anyone else have any to say?"

At this time, the Minister of Resources, An Xiangui, said: "I have something to say. I do not oppose public ownership of land, nor do I oppose confiscation of land owners. But I think all the land is worth discussing. First, allocate all the land to farmers. As a result, the formation of individual production based on families is still individual production. Small peasant economy can indeed improve farmers' enthusiasm and reduce farmers' burdens in a short period of time, but it cannot improve agricultural production efficiency. In this way, farmers' ability to resist risks is not much improved. Once natural disasters occur, farmers are likely to go bankrupt. Therefore, I think we should promote the adoption of farm-based operations and collectively divide the land to improve agricultural production efficiency. At the same time, this is also the trend of agricultural development. In addition, some farmers can be liberated from the land and transformed into industrial workers."
Chapter completed!