Taking this opportunity, Zou Yana also wanted to find out how big the territorial ambitions Mingguo had in Southeast Asia.

He really wanted to know what kind of interests the Ming Kingdom had in Southeast Asia. It would be best if everyone talked openly about the matter.

If you can’t reach an agreement, then let’s continue to talk. Seeking common ground while reserving differences can still achieve an agreed goal, right?

Su Yonglin of course also knew what Zou Yana meant. The two of them tacitly began to discuss the fundamental interests.

What major demands did the Ming Dynasty have for Southeast Asia?

Is it territorial demand?

It's really not.

The territorial appeal for Su Yonglin in Southeast Asia was not very big. He took over the Honghe Plain occupied by Nanyue and built it into the southern border of Ming Dynasty, and stabilized the southern border. That was Su Yonglin's territorial appeal.

These days, information dissemination methods are limited, and it is very difficult to achieve breakthroughs in the short term, so it is difficult to achieve this demand, so it is not a good thing to have too large territory.

If the territory is large, the military force required is huge. Maintaining a strong military force for a long time is a very difficult task for any regime. If it is not good, it will cause the warlordization of the army and it is very dangerous.

Su Yonglin's demand for territory was mainly concentrated in the north and west. He needed the grasslands in the north and the plateau valleys in the west to serve as strategic buffers for the local area of ​​the Thirteen Prefectures of China and established an unbreakable strategic defense lifeline.

This is already the limit that Su Yonglin can do.

As for Southeast Asia, its needs are mainly political and economic needs.

Politically, he needed to spread revolutionary ideas in Southeast Asia, help them overthrow the old regime and establish a new revolutionary regime.

Economically, he needed important ports and waterways in coastal areas of Southeast Asian countries, so that ports and waterways could be controlled in the hands of the Ming Dynasty and as the lifeline for the Ming Dynasty's thoughts and economy to go global.

Especially economic demand, which is the core interest of Ming Dynasty's future development, is an existence that must be won and maintained forever, and there is no room for negotiation.

At present, Zou Yana has put forward a demand and asked the Ming Dynasty to put forward her own conditions. For Su Yonglin, this is a good opportunity to reasonably and comply with the important ports along the Tonghaiyi Road in Guangzhou.

I don’t want much territory, I just want a good port, you must guarantee my interests in the port, I don’t want anything else.

So Su Yonglin took out the ancient Guangzhou Tonghaiyi Dao map for Zou Yana to show it to Zou Yana and told Zou Yana about her own needs.

"All dynasties have liked to wait for others to come here on their own initiative, and I hope that the people of Daming can take the initiative to go out, do business and live around the world, understand the differences between the world, broaden their horizons, and try to keep the money from doing business in their own hands and make more money.

To this end, the important port along the Tonghaiyi Road in Guangzhou is necessary for the Ming Dynasty. This is also my requirement. You hope that the Ming Dynasty will send troops to help you attack Zhenla Kingdom to complete revenge. This is not a difficult task for the Ming Dynasty, but I want a port.

I will send someone to inspect the location of the port city in the coastal areas of Zhenla Kingdom. Those who are inspected must belong to the Ming Dynasty and become the territory of the Ming Dynasty. Not only the Zhenla Kingdom, but also the port city in the land of the city. If you have any, you must make it the territory of the Ming Dynasty."

When Zou Yana heard Su Yonglin's request, she frowned immediately.

To be fair, from the perspective of territorial demands alone, Su Yonglin's demands are not huge.

The famous port cities that can be seen in Chameng and Zhenla will not add up to one hand, and compared to the vast territory, it is just a drop in the bucket.

However, the reason why ports are so important and are valued by Su Yonglin is that they have great economic significance.

Su Yonglin knows how much money foreign trade makes, and Zou Yana knows even more that if the port is handed over, the goods will have to be paid tariffs to Ming Dynasty when they go to sea. Export trade is controlled by Ming Dynasty, so it is not easy to say whether it is safe and reliable.

Zou Yana knew that Su Yonglin had no territorial appeals to Southeast Asia, which should have made him happy, but Ming's demands for ports and economy made him feel embarrassed from another level.

This is also an issue that affects the interests of Chameng Country.

Should you agree or not?

If you agree, it is not a dream to get help from the Ming army and defeat Zhenla to achieve great achievements.

If you don’t agree, you will not offend Mingguo. If you want to defeat Zhenla and achieve great achievements, it may be a dream.

Zou Yana fell into a tangle.

Su Yonglin doesn't care. Even if he doesn't agree, he will definitely get it, no matter what channel he uses.

But if he agrees, the process of achieving the goal will be easier and spend less money.

"This is the bottom line that the Ming Dynasty will never give in. I might as well say it clearly. The Ming Dynasty must obtain these ports, which is beyond doubt. And I think you should believe that even if you don't rely on anyone, the Ming Dynasty can obtain these ports, it's just a matter of time."

Of course, Zou Yana knew that Su Yonglin's words were true. As long as Ming Dynasty wanted, he would definitely get them. This was determined by his strong national strength.

Now Ming Guo put forward this request, in his opinion, was more like a kind of support for himself. Not to mention him, this kind of support can be replaced by another person, or even...

It is not impossible to help the usurper of Zhenla.

As soon as he thought of this, Zou Yana suddenly realized that her actual situation was actually quite difficult.

Once the Ming Kingdom turns around and discusses with Zhen La Kingdom and leaves itself behind, he will inevitably fall into the situation of abandoning his son in an instant.

Even if the Ming Kingdom does not instigate Zhenla to attack Zhancheng, then it will launch its own troops to attack Zhenla, and the Ming Kingdom will say that it is not allowed to fight, then will it listen or not?

If he disobediently, the Ming army immediately had the right to start the war. Why can we fight against real la?

In this short moment, Zou Yana felt the tragic situation of a small country compared to a big country.

If I had known this, wouldn’t it be better to simply not have anything to do with Mingguo?

This idea was quickly abandoned by Zou Yana because he knew very well that it was not that Mingguo needed him, but that he needed Mingguo.

The Ming Kingdom is so big that its own power can overflow even if it is not moved. It is impossible for them, such small neighboring countries to leave him.

After thinking about it quickly, Zou Yana felt that she had no other choice but to agree to Su Yonglin's request initially. As for which ports Su Yonglin needed, he felt that he could negotiate further, and hoped that Chameng people could pay less tariffs when doing overseas trade.

Su Yonglin gave verbal recognition and said that the specific content can be negotiated, and written in black and white, saved in duplicate, and solved the problem.

As for which ports needed for the Ming Dynasty, people should be sent to investigate carefully and no decision will be made for the time being.

Because of the current national situation in Chameng, it is really an old lady who is sleeping in bed and making fun of her. Chameng, which has just ended civil strife and foreign troubles, now needs to recuperate and accumulate strength before starting a war.

This also fits the needs of the Ming Dynasty, so the two sides agreed to take action two or three years later, and the ports needed by the Ming Dynasty would be delivered to the Ming Dynasty after the Ming army supported the Chameng Kingdom arrived. This would be a matter of paying money and delivering goods in one hand, and it would be a fairy-good person.

Both parties were very satisfied with this agreement. At least Su Yonglin didn't think there was anything wrong with it, so he asked someone to take out paper and pen and write down the agreed things between the two parties. Then Su Yonglin and Zou Yana signed and sealed each other, and then stamped them with seals like treasures to be credited.

So, the two parties reached this agreement.
Chapter completed!