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181 Debate

"If your company really wants to show sincerity, I think the price of 26 million US dollars per unit is very suitable! Of course, I am a very reasonable person. If this price is the price, your company will not have to bear the logistics costs." After hearing the question of Daolang of Shi Gu, Wang Zhengyu replied without hesitation. Obviously, he had already thought of this answer.

In fact, this price was also carefully budgeted by Wang Zhengyu. If the development cost is not counted, Nikon still makes a profit, but the profit for each machine is already very thin. If you still have to carry it, it can be said that you will not make any money, but at least you will not lose.

Wang Zhengyu could probably judge that this was also the bottom line that Nikon could accept, and of course bargaining is indispensable.

"Two six million US dollars? Chairman Wang, aren't you kidding? You should know that our equipment is sold to Intel at a unit price of more than 30 million US dollars per unit!" Wu Gu Daolang frowned.

"I know very well this. The specific price your company sells to Intel is US$30.28 million per unit, but Intel cannot provide your company with research and development information for the new generation of EUV lithography machines. What's more, your company has only 20 units with Intel, and I have to buy 30 units at a time, so the price is more preferable than Intel." Wang Zhengyu talked erudibly.

"I was surprised by Chairman Wang's double standards. When we negotiated with your company on ice-core batteries, the more products you bought, the more expensive you asked for. Why did Chairman Wang buy things, but he asked us to be cheaper?" Huang Gu Daolang said tit-for-tat.

"This is different. There is no second company in the world that can produce our ice-core batteries. But your company still has competition for lithography equipment. In fact, you should think about it in another direction. Each of the first-generation euv lithography machines pre-sold by Asmay has a high price of nearly 100 million US dollars. They are still sought after by semiconductor manufacturers. If Nikon can seize the market of euv lithography machines first, it will not be a little bit. What's more, if your company first increases the semiconductor processing technology to 10nm, it's not just as simple as making money. At that time, Nikon will definitely replace Asmay's position and become the world's largest lithography machine supplier. Think about this, do you still think the price I proposed is outrageous?" Wang Zhengyu said tempted.

"Okay. Even if what you said makes sense, but the question is here again. How do we know that the information of your company is really helpful to our euv lithography technology as you said? Even if it can be helpful, if we can't reach an agreement on technology transfer next, then will Nikon be a big loss?" Daolang of Shigu shook his head.

"But I don't think I have to explain anything in the first question. Because the information I provided, in fact, the analysis in the first half is enough to allow your engineers to make a rough judgment. Unless the engineers in your lithography department are too poor, of course, your lithography equipment can reach this level now, which means that this situation is basically impossible!"

Wang Zhengyu began to analyze it in a clear way. "As for the second situation, it depends on your company's sincerity. I said just now that this is an opportunity for me to give your company. As for whether you can grasp it, it depends on whether Nikon has the courage to win this order. Of course, if Nikon still has doubts about our technology, he can naturally choose the first transaction method, and I don't force it. Our Tianshu Technology does not care about spending more than one billion US dollars to purchase a batch of equipment."

Wang Zhengyu threw the problem to Nikon again in an understatement.

"Chairman Wang means that we can only start negotiations for the second business after we have completed the first business?" After weighing the pros and cons, Daolang of Huo Gu said slowly.

"It's not going to be here. Although Hijima and Huaxia are not far away, it's troublesome to run back and forth. What's more, your company is definitely unwilling to sell your equipment to me at such a low price. I don't mind discussing the two businesses together." Wang Zhengyu said with a thrust eyebrows.

"Okay, that's better. Our Nikon company can provide your company with 30 S620d type lithography machines for free in exchange for your company's technology for EUV type lithography machines. I wonder what Chairman Wang thinks my proposal is like? I think this is a pretty good transaction method." Daolang of Huo Gu directly offered the conditions.

"Mr. Huo Gu is indeed a bit capable of taking the throne of Chairman Nikon. At least he is extremely smart in the calculations. How much does thirty S620d cost? How much money does it cost to develop euv lithography technology? Not to mention how much time and energy it takes to fail again and again? More importantly, Nikon is now competing for time with Asmay? Do you really think your offer is reasonable?" Wang Zhengyu shook his head and said calmly: "If this is the sincerity that Nikon can express in the end, I think I'd better acquire your company's equipment for 80 million yuan."

"Chairman Wang, please don't be too greedy. The fact is that our Nikon company has not even tested whether your information is as valuable as you said, and has already paid $2.4 billion in equipment! I think this seems to be enough to show our sincerity!" Yeyama Jiro couldn't help but refute.

"Twenty and four billion US dollars?" Wang Zhengyu smiled contemptuously and asked: "Yeshan, please understand that in fact, we all know that thirty S620d lithography machines are not worth the price. And I am the only one in this world who will pay this price, which is also when you are not interested in the information of euv. In fact, for your company, it is just less than 800 million US dollars. This money is a drop in the bucket for the research and development of euv technology! We all know the value of new technologies that have always revolutionized, especially under the premise of competition!"

Wang Zhengyu is extremely serious about the word competition, so the subtext is naturally that his skills are not worried about not being able to sell them.

"Okay, I think since Chairman Wang took the initiative to come to us this time, I must have a scheming case. You might as well say, what price does Nikon need to pay to get this information? If we can talk, let's continue to talk. If not, we will follow the first plan mentioned by Chairman Wang." Daolang of Wei Gu asked simply.

For him, both sides' trump cards are already very obvious, and such constant testing is meaningless. What's more, the board of directors has already formed a resolution. If the asking price of Tianshu Technology is not too excessive, Nikon must obtain this euv technology.

"Let's do this, since this Yeyama Jiro said just now that your company is willing to pay $2.4 billion in exchange for our information. I can't help but agree. Thirty S620d lithography machines are discounted at $800 million, and your company can get this information for another $1.6 billion. This time you have made a lot of money. I rarely speak so easily. If you don't believe it, you can ask Ballmer." Wang Zhengyu simply gave the answer.

Yeyama Jiro glared at Wang Zhengyu in anger. When did he say that Nikon is willing to pay $2.4 billion? Is that the number calculated based on the 80 million US dollars you said is good? Especially after reporting such an astronomical number, he also looked like he had taken advantage of how much Nikon took him. What does this mean? Can Nikon's dollars fall from the sky?

"Two.4 billion US dollars? Chairman Wang is too exaggerated, right?" Daolang of Huogu shook his head and said.

"This is still exaggerating? I wonder if you have calculated how much money your company has spent on this project from beginning to end and has not yet achieved results. Now it only needs to pay a little price. Not only can it get results in the shortest time, but it can even make Nikon the world's leading supplier of high-end lithography machines. What kind of Asmay and Canon are directly under your feet, and you will never turn over. Thinking about it like this, it is really not expensive!" Wang Zhengyu shook his head and said.

"No, Chairman Wang, the account is not settled like this. I admit that Nikon has invested a lot of money in the EUV project, but that also includes the update of laboratory equipment. We just got a piece of information from you." Daolang of Huo Gu continued to shake his head.

"Do you really think our information fell from the sky? Or just download it directly on Yahoo? Your company's new technology needs to be R&D costs, don't we want it? Otherwise, I'll sell it cheaper and you can charge $1.2 billion, and then sell it to Asmai for two billion US dollars. What do you think of this idea?" Wang Zhengyu said without any hesitation.

In fact, to be honest, for Wang Zhengyu, these materials are not much different from falling from the sky. This is completely a business without foundation. Of course, he will definitely not admit this.

However, these words also left Daolang Wu speechless.

They are all in this industry, so he naturally knows in his heart how much money and energy it takes to develop euv lithography technology. If we calculate this, it is indeed not expensive to get a technology transfer fee of US$2.4 billion.

Of course, he didn't think about the second idea that Wang Zhengyu came up with at all. In fact, purchasing this technology itself is to compete with Asmay. Now Asmay is ahead of Nikon in the field of euv lithography technology. How could he agree to share this technology with Nikon?

"In this way, we can settle the business for 2 billion US dollars. This is not a small number, we are also making a big bet!" Daolang Kagu gave a price very simply.

"Mr. Huo Gu, you didn't talk about the price like this, so you can get 400 million in a moment? Or US dollars! Do you really think that gold depreciates and the US dollar is not worth it? Of course, if Nikon cannot raise so much cash at the moment, I can accept this offer. However, each of the euv lithography machines produced by Nikon in the future will need to be distributed to us by Tianshu Technology's 10% profit. This is also my final offer, Mr. Huo Gu Daolang!" (To be continued, please search for Astronomy, novels are better, updated and faster!
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