On this day, the morning court was over, and Wen Yanbo summoned the minister Yu Dutang again to discuss the reform of Ye County.

Du Zhongxiao entered the capital early and saw that Li Shen, the salt and iron envoy, and Zhang Yu, the Ministry of Revenue, were already there, so he hurriedly greeted each other.

After saying a few gossips, Zhang Fei said: "I saw the news yesterday. The army of Taiwei Di at the foot of Tiandu Mountain had already left, occupied Dingchuan Village, and crossed the new trenches. Dangxiang had harassed soldiers and repelled our army, and everything else was calm."

Li Shendao: "Di Taiwei's army is 300,000, so why dare to confront him head-on!"

Zhang Xu nodded and said, "Dangxiang gathered troops from all over the country, but he was unable to stop the army of Taiwei Di. I think it was harassment along the way and the decisive battle at Lingzhou City. I heard that Dangxiang built Lingzhou City for several years, and it was not easy to attack."

At this time, the world's major events are nothing more than fighting with Dangxiang. Although we are discussing the affairs of Ye County today, everyone's mind is still on the northwest frontline.

After a few words, Du Zong commanders Zhou Zhan, Ouyang Xiu, Wang Zhu, Wang Gui and others arrived and joined together, making it even more lively. Everyone was optimistic about the war in the Northwest and guessed when they would win. After all, Du Zhongxiao had been in Hequ Road for three years and had endless battles, and it was unreasonable to change Di Qing, and his 300,000 troops would have an accident.

It was not until Wen Yanbo and the priest came in and everyone saluted, and the topic ended.

After the ceremony, Wen Yanbo said: "It has been more than ten days since the last discussion of Ye County. You have thought it through. Today, it is best to make a decision and report to the emperor and let the sect rule. Although Ye County is in chaos, it is not a big deal and cannot be delayed for a long time. Now that the war in the northwest begins, the court's efforts must be used to fight against the Dangxiang, and should not be distracted."

Everyone held the scepter and said yes.

Wen Yanbo said to Zhou Zhan, the envoy of Duzhi, "Last time, the money in the world was collected and issued by the court, and the big and small iron coins were issued. The money was previously transferred to the Duzhi Department, but I wonder what you think? This matter is the most important thing, not only involves Ye County, but you must act carefully."

Zhou Zhan said: "I went back to Xianggong, Duzhishi thought that this matter was feasible. However, there are a few points that need to be paid attention to, and you must be extra cautious."

Wen Yanbo said: "What do you mean, but it doesn't matter. This is an important event in the country, and of course you must be very cautious."

Zhou Zhan said: "The officials thought it was not difficult to issue money by the court. Now, the places where the money was printed were directly under the jurisdiction of the court and the plate was made uniformly. Some remote roads could be cut off and printed by him. However, the unified printing by the court should still be linked to the savings stations in various places. Otherwise, once the people go to the savings station to use money to transfer copper coins, and cannot repay them, it will inevitably cause doubts."

Du Zhongxiao said: "Is this a run? The court issued an order that money should be given in advance for the transfer of copper coins. If there is insufficient copper coins in the savings office, the exchange can be asked to wait for some days. The left and right are not allowed to leave the country, and it is nothing to wait for a few days. The most important thing is that money is placed in the savings office, and there must be interest. It is better to save money than to put cash."

Zhang Fangping said: "Saving money has interest, so there is a problem. Money can definitely make money. You can lend and collect interest. With the interest spread, there is no problem with saving money. But money is issued based on copper coins. The amount of copper coins is certain, so money cannot be issued continuously. One day, money will be too much to insufficient copper coins and cannot be issued. What should we do then?"

Li Shendao, the salt and iron envoy, said: "In addition to copper coins, there are also iron coins issued. There is no time when the iron is insufficient."

Du Zhongxiao said: "Relying on gold, silver, copper and other money, you will always encounter problems, that is, the price exceeds these. This is a matter of no way, and you can ignore it for the time being. At that time, everything will be different, and money will no longer depend on copper coins. As long as the world is sufficient, you can buy anything with money, what else? So you can ignore this matter for the time being."

Zhou Zhan said: "As long as you are not afraid of the people going to pick them up together, and the court will print money and lead them together, there will be nothing."

Du Zhongxiao said: "If you want to buy all the goods in the world, you can no longer be in charge of the Duzhi Department. Otherwise, the imperial court will print money when it is short of money. If there is no law, it will sooner or later become waste paper. There should be no department to be set up independently and specialize in printing money. The savings office uses the copper coins and iron coins in their hands to apply for the quota from the printed place, and print it to them."

Wen Yanbo said: "This matter involves a lot of things and is difficult to discuss clearly for a while. As long as the court issues money uniformly, there will be no officials to discuss in detail. This matter will end here. When it is done, the court will naturally be cautious."

Everyone said it was. Compared with the previous prime minister, Wen Yanbo was enterprising in his work, had a heavy authority, and did not like to be verbose.

After discussing Qian Yin, Wen Yanbo said, "Last time I discussed Ye County, everyone thought that it was necessary to increase officials. The easiest way was to go to the county to prefecture, and the iron supervision was listed separately, and the salt and iron supervision department sent people to manage it. Once this case was opened, not only Baiting Supervisor, but other iron supervision also had to do the same. There were also shopping malls, large official factories and other such as the Salt and Iron Industry. At that time, the Salt and Iron Industry were not like now, and the world's prohibited items under its jurisdiction were extremely powerful. This matter is not small. What do you think after these days?"

Li Shendao, the salt and iron envoy, said: "I have thought about this matter carefully. If this is done, the Salt and Iron Department will need to add many officials."

Prime Minister Liu Xun said: "If it is beneficial, what's the difficulty of increasing officials? The key is, after the salt and iron department is taken back, will these places become better? Can the court receive more money and grain? If it is just increased officials, the court will not benefit, so what's the benefit?"

Li Shen Penghu: "There is no accurate number for the iron supervisors and shopping malls in the world today. There are at least a few benefits to the salt and iron department. First, the salt and iron department are managed by the salt and iron department. Those who use it know how much they use it and know what they make. Shopping mall goods are purchased from the world. With quantity, it is also conducive to unified procurement. With these benefits, they will inevitably make more money than before."

Jia Changchao said: "However, the guns, gunpowder and so on used by the army were also bought from these factories. After belonging to the Salt and Iron Department, under the Zhili Central Secretariat, the Privy Council needed money to buy it. Where did this money come from?"

Du Zhongxiao said: "This requires the army to arrange numbers and report them to the court, and the court allocates money. In the past, the materials were directly allocated, but on the surface, they did not spend money, but in fact, there were so many materials, which were very valuable. If there was no money to measure, the factory did not want to do it."

Jia Changchao said, "So what if you don't want to do it? How can you slack off under the court order?"

Du Zhongxiao said: "The Taiwei, it is different from the fact that he wants to do it or not. If the person does not want to do it, he will naturally be much worse than what they want to do. After all, the Privy Council used money, but the money was still under the Secretary of the Central Secretariat. However, the court found a way to transfer the money to the army. Multiple procedures are easy to control for the court, and it is not a bad thing."

Jia Changchao said: "There is no way to allocate money now, so this matter is a bit difficult. Unless the court submits the money to the Privy Council, this matter is absolutely impossible! Without guns and gunpowder, how can the army fight!"

Wen Yanbo said: "Of course, you will think about it completely. It is not just the Privy Council that is difficult to deal with. In the past, factories under the imperial court, including the construction of railways, were allocated by the court. These details are not taken into account. If you discuss them today, whether this matter is feasible. As long as it is feasible, we will report to the emperor to make a judgment. We will discuss the specific details later."

Zhang Fangping said: "Although this matter is difficult, I think it is necessary, otherwise it will be too chaotic. According to the order of the court, the factory where they are located will inevitably push back and forth and delay as much as possible. Many of the products they make themselves are for takeout, so they naturally tend to be there. If they want to use it, use money to buy it. If they need it, add more money, and the factory will do things much more clearly."

Jia Changchao said: "But the imperial court does not have the money to buy the guns and cannons needed by the army now."

Zhang Fangping said: "If you don't need to buy it now, you will naturally have no money. If you need money to buy it in the future, the court will naturally allocate money, so why bother with this?"

Everyone heard this and said it was. Jia Changchao only emphasized that he had no money based on the position of the Privy Council. He did not need to buy it now, so of course he had no money. When he bought it with money in the future, how could the court not allocate money? Not to mention whether it was bought by the Privy Council, it was hard to say very much.

Seeing that everyone stopped talking, Wen Yanbo said: "The world's largest official business is accepted by the Salt and Iron Department, and it is no longer under the jurisdiction of the local government. In fact, the current Salt and Iron Department only collects accounts from various places and directly manages the affairs of the field. Of course, many officials need to be added. A rough estimate shows that there are many officials who have been added. In addition, the affairs of the various places are big and small, and the big ones are collected and the small ones are needed to discuss. This matter has a great impact on the government affairs and cannot be explained clearly in a few words. After today, the Secretariat and the Salt and Iron Department will discuss together to draw up a preliminary method. When it is implemented, many officials will need to participate."

Seeing that everyone was not talking, Wen Yanbo said, "Okay, after a major matter was discussed, I would like to talk about the last thing. Last time, Du Zhongcheng proposed that local governance, factories and farming are the same as shops, and new methods are needed. Moreover, officials and officials are different, and they can cooperate with each other to manage the place well. The emperor was very interested in this discussion, and later mentioned to me that there are two most important things to implement in Ye County. One is to have appropriate officials to do it there, and the other is where the money comes from."
Chapter completed!