After hearing this, Wu Zheng asked strangely: "What's wrong with Emperor Hongguang?"

Ma Shiying smiled bitterly and said, "Mr. Hou is now also in a high position and power. He should know the character and talents of the people in the royal family."

Wu Zheng was startled, and then he quickly recalled that Ma Shiying pointed out that it was a custom for the royal family that the vassal kings in various places were not allowed to study since childhood, so that they would avoid these vassal kings from the future.

In fact, the so-called "Lu Wang has a reputation for being a virtuous" advocated by the Donglin Party is just an excuse. Zhu Changqing, the Lu Wang who did not study and politely, was definitely not a virtuous person. Later, he surrendered to Hangzhou City, which also proved this.

Wu Zheng smiled and said, "Stay on."

Ma Shiying sighed before speaking, and stopped for a while before saying, "Emperor Hongguang... is very expensive."

Wu Zheng naturally understood it, and Ma Shiying finally took into account the ruler and his ministers, and it was difficult to openly accuse Emperor Hongguang whom he supported.

But Wu Zheng had no such concern. He clearly said: "I know this. I have been plundering countless money in one year after becoming the throne. Shan Xiunv levies three times. None of the taxes levied is used for people's livelihood. This is the emperor you support!"

Wu Zheng's straightforwardness made Ma Shiying's face turn red and white. He whispered: "Compared with the King Lu that the Donglin Party members wanted to establish, Emperor Hongguang...is not too outrageous."

Wu Zheng was shocked, yes, it was not too outrageous. Emperor Hongguang fled from Nanjing after his defeat and went to Wuhu to surrender to Duke Jingguo Huang Degong, which led to a strong attack by the Qing army, and Huang Degong fought to his death.

After Huang Degong died in battle, his subordinates Tian Xiong, Ma Degong, Qiu Yue, Zhang Jie, Huang Ming, Chen Xiance and others rushed to the imperial boat, kidnapped Emperor Hongguang, and presented him to the Qing army.

Although Emperor Hongguang did not subjectively contribute to the Qing Dynasty, his actions were not as outrageous as Ma Shiying said.

Wu Zheng asked: "Even if Emperor Hongguang is stupid and corrupt and indulged in wine and sex, he was not the one who actually took charge of government affairs in Hongguang Dynasty? What you are talking about is probably not the main cause of the defeat of millions of Ming troops in several days, right?"

Ma Shiying nodded and agreed: "This is right. In just one year, millions of troops were destroyed. I am afraid that it is not enough for anyone to say it. But Ma still wants to say that the emperor cannot refuse his fault."

Seeing that Wu Zheng looked a little unwilling when he heard this, Ma Shiying quickly explained: "Listen to me to finish my words. When I contacted the Inspector and the surrounding four towns and raised an army to support King Fu, King Fu had reached an agreement with the head coach of the four towns in private. In order to ascend to the throne, King Fu promised many things that I didn't even know about, so that after King Fu ascended the throne, the four towns listened to the communist rather than the proclamation, absorbed taxes at the garrison, and even turned a death to the imperial court's will."

Wu Zheng frowned and said, "Shige troops hold a large army, how can they let them do this?"

Ma Shiying smiled bitterly and said, "Shi Kefa was swaying from the side to the matter of support. He even joined forces with 17 people including Zhang Shenyan, Gao Hongtu and others to sign the seven major reasons why King Fu could not be established - greed, lust, alcoholism, unfiliality, abuse, ignorance and domineering. Later, Emperor Hongguang learned about this letter, how could he not regard Shi Kefa as a thorn in his eyes and a thorn in his flesh? Therefore, although Shi Kefa had hundreds of thousands of troops in his hands, he had long been abandoned from the court by the emperor. Later, when Shi Kefa was in danger of Yangzhou, he asked the court for help several times, but the emperor ignored it and let Yangzhou fall."

Wu Zheng felt a thrill in his heart. This is a typical case of a unified search for destruction.

At this time, Ma Shiying continued: "If the emperor should bear 30% of the responsibility for Nanjing's loss, then Shi Kefa should bear 30% of the responsibility."

"Then how much should you bear?" Wu Zheng asked coldly.

Ma Shiying was stunned, and then said with a sigh: "Although Ma is an assistant, it has only been a year. Besides, there are former Minister of Rites Wang Duo, Left Minister of Rites Jiang Yueguang, both the Grand Secretary of Dongge, the Minister of Personnel Zhang Shenyan, the Censor of the Left Chief Censor Liu Zongzhou, and the new Minister of Rites Qian Qianyi and others. These people were used by the Donglin Party to restrain Ma. Their statement was to try to let the righteous people occupy the key points and give a new atmosphere at the beginning of the establishment of the court. But what is the result?"

Ma Shiying mocked: "At least half of them shave their clothes and surrendered to the Qing Dynasty. The so-called righteous people are not as good as me, a eunuch party that has been despised by the world. If Mr. Hou insists on asking Ma how much responsibility he should be, then Ma will answer at most 10%.

"Oh?" Wu Zheng asked, "In this way, there are already 70% and 30% of the responsibility. Who should bear it?"

Ma Shiying thought for a while and said, "The head coaches of the four towns should be here to take over the remaining 30%.

After hearing this, Wu Zheng suddenly said angrily: "Are you slandering Duke Yasukuni in front of me?"

Ma Shiying was a little surprised, and said, "Ma dare not slander Duke Jingguo. Although Duke Jingguo is vulgar, he is indeed a loyal minister. But the other three towns, Liu Liangzuo, Liu Zeqing, are not two-faced and disconnected from the court? The key is that there are hatreds within the generals of these four towns. If Shi Kefa had not been constantly mediated from it, the four towns would have fought on their own.

Mr. Hou must know that except for Duke Jingguo Huang Degong, who fought to protect the enemy and died in the battlefield, the other three towns surrendered to the Qing Dynasty. It is not necessary to say that Liu Liangzuo, his younger brother Liu Liangchen had surrendered to the Qing court with General Zu Dashou in the Battle of Dalinghe in the fourth year of Chongzhen. After being granted Guangchang Bo to station in Shou County, he even looted the surrounding areas and committed all kinds of evil. His military achievements were all from suppressing the civil thieves, and he had never truly resisted the Qing Dynasty. Xingping Bo Gao Jie was originally a surrendered general of the civil thieves. He had met the Qing army in his early years. After he surrendered to Emperor Hongguang, he only killed a robber in Xuzhou and was granted the title of Xingping Bo and the Prince's Tutor.

As for Liu Zeqing, the boss of Dongping, he had already expressed his intention to rebel when he was promoted to the general of Shandong in the late Chongzhen period. When the Dashun Army approached Beijing, Emperor Chongzhen ordered him to lead his troops into the capital of the Guard, but he lied that he was injured when he fell off his horse and refused to obey the order. Soon the Dashun Army entered Shandong, and he led the main force to flee south to Huai'an without a single arrow. He occupied land as the king. This was a capricious villain.

Ma has no intention of slandering the dead, so Hou is clear. I just want to say that the demise of the Hongguang Dynasty should not be blamed on Ma, at least Ma should not bear most of the responsibility."

Wu Zheng actually quite agrees with Ma Shiying's explanation. Ma Shiying's "traitor" can never have such a big negative impact in such a chaotic world.

Because he had no military power, he was like the general of the four towns, and Shi Kefa, who held heavy troops in his hands, could play a crucial role in this battle situation.

The million Ming troops in the Southern Ming Dynasty were actually the imperial army in the hands of Shi Kefa, plus the soldiers and bandits in the hands of the four towns, and some temporary new troops were just formed, and they were definitely not the real million regular troops.
Chapter completed!