Chapter 465 Mu Yang, are you playing with me?!
"certainly!"
Mu Yang replied affirmatively, he knew very well what the CPU frequency represented, it was absolutely number one in the world.
Even in 2022, the Huawei Mate 40 mobile phone priced at four to five thousand yuan uses the Kirin/Lin 9000E chip, and its CPU frequency is not so high. (9000E: 7nm process technology, 3.13Ghz A77*1+2.54GHz A77
*3+2.05GHz A55*4)
Or, the four-star GALAXY Note 10+ mobile phone priced at seven to eight thousand, the Snapdragon 855 chip used, the CPU frequency is also not that high (the process is 7nm, 2.84GHz A76*1, 2.41GHz A76*3, 1.78GHz
A55*4)
In other words, this Xingchen 01 chip will not lag behind even if it is used until 2022. It is still a top chip.
Up to now, it's just hacking all mobile phone chips, which is almost equivalent to black technology and doesn't follow common sense.
That's why Mr. Ren was so surprised and asked: Are you really planning to release such a perverted chip? Are Mr. Mu serious?
"Such a chip is too high-end. When used in mobile phones, other configurations cannot keep up." Mr. Ren felt pleasantly surprised but also troubled. This thing is so good. How much should the mobile phone be priced at?
If the price is set too high, mobile phone sales will definitely be low.
Of course, this thing is absolutely awesome in your hand.
"Haha, I don't have to worry about this. I only make mobile phone chips. If I want to make other mobile phone accessories, I might as well just make a mobile phone." Mu Yang smiled gently. He understood Mr. Ren's mood.
Things that are too good and too advanced don’t seem to be a good thing.
But the problem is that their cost of producing 7nm is not much higher than the cost of producing 28nm chips.
Of course, costs can also be reduced.
It is possible to reduce the chip area, reduce the amount of drawing, and reduce CPU performance.
MATE7's Hayes kirin 925 CPU, CPU frequency is 1.8Ghz*4+1.3Ghz*4.
It is also eight-core, but the performance parameters are much worse.
Compared with Hayes Kirin 925, Xingchen 01 seems to be only twice as big in terms of CPU frequency data, but the actual performance is not double.
Moreover, different chips have different chip architectures and cannot be compared solely by CPU frequency. Xingchen 01 has lower energy consumption and faster operating efficiency. Even with the same CPU frequency, the operating efficiency is much faster than other chips.
For example, when calculating the addition from 1 to 100 in Hayes Kirin 925, it means adding one by one and it takes a hundred steps to calculate. However, Star 01 directly applies the formula and completes it in just a few steps, which is equivalent to walking in a straight line. Of course, the latter is much faster. This is unfair.
The benefits brought by chip architecture.
Mu Yang believes that the chip architecture of Xingchen is much better than that of Core. From the architecture alone, the performance has been improved by about 15% and the energy consumption is only half.
"We can produce a compressed mobile phone chip called 'Starlight 01', which can be used on your MATE7. However, even the castrated version is much more advanced than your Hess Kirin 925. Ours
The chip architecture is much better than Core.
Starlight 01 still uses 7nm process technology, and the CPU frequency design is 2.25Ghz*2+1.85GHz*2+1.5GHz*4. The specific performance will not be known until the samples are released.
In terms of price, it may be higher than Hayes Kirin 925, priced at about 500 yuan. We won’t know the details until samples are released;
If we OEM your Heisel Kirin 925, we will charge you whatever the OEM price is.
However, we do not make money by producing 28nm process chips. I hope you will transition to the HiSilicon Kirin 925 as soon as possible. After half a year, we will no longer produce 28nm process chips." Mu Yang said, the cost of producing Starlight 01 is the same as the production of HiSilicon Kirin.
The cost of 925 is not much different, but the performance is very different.
Both Xingchen 01 and Xingguang 01 use 7nm process technology, but the latter uses a photolithography machine for much less time. At the same time, the wafer area used is smaller, the scrap rate is smaller, and the cost is much lower.
However, regardless of whether it produces Starlight 01 or Star 01, the production cost of Xinghai Group is not high. Starlight 01 sells for 500 yuan, and the production cost may only be about 20 yuan, or even lower. This thing is expensive, mainly because the research and development cost is too high.
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As for Xingchen 01, Muyang is priced at 1,200 yuan. The production cost is higher than that of Xingguang 01, but not much higher, definitely not more than 50 yuan.
When Xinghai Group calculates comprehensive costs, it can set the R&D costs higher to make the costs more "reasonable".
The price of Xingchen 01 is too high, and the price of the mobile phone is not more than 6,000 or 7,000 yuan, so it will be difficult for mobile phone manufacturers to make money.
Therefore, Huawei Company may not necessarily be able to use Xingchen 01 at present.
But even if it uses the Starlight 01 chip, the price of the mobile phone is suitable for 3,500 yuan to 5,500 yuan, which can already be used as a flagship mobile phone.
Xinghai Group does not make mobile phones, but it sells mobile phone chips to mobile phone manufacturers around the world. It does not make money for anyone it makes.
However, Pingguo and Four Star both design their own mobile phone chips and most likely will not use Xinghai Group’s mobile phone chips.
But other mobile phone manufacturers can use Xingchen 01 and Xingguang 01 to make flagship mobile phones that can beat Pingguo and four-star flagship phones.
When Mr. Ren heard Mu Yang's quotation, he felt that it was not expensive. He clasped his hands together and said with gratitude on his face: "Mr. Mu, even if the OEM price is higher, it is not a problem and we can accept it. Thank you very much to Xinghai Group for helping us in our most critical moment."
Times help us.
In this case, I still hope that Xinghai Group will help us produce part of Hays Kirin 925 as a buffer;
At the same time, we will design new mobile phones as soon as possible and use Xingchen 01 and Xingguang 01 chips."
MATE7 was launched in August this year. The sales price of 2G+16G is 3,000 yuan. The chip cost is about 360 yuan, accounting for 12% of the sales price. This is a chip designed by Huawei Company itself, and the cost is much less. Mainly
The cost is still foundry fee. If you buy a Core chip with the same performance, it will cost about more than 400 to 500 yuan.
Mr. Ren does not intend to give up his own chip design for the time being. He will save as much cost as possible. If the demand is 10 million units per year, he will save about one billion yuan every year.
Starlight 01 is also better than Hayes Kirin 925. Mu Yang didn’t say specific performance parameters, but what he said is probably true.
At this time, Mr. Ren was a little worried. They had to independently develop mobile phone chips before, just because they were afraid of being stuck by foreigners, and in addition, they could reduce costs.
Now, the chips designed by Xinghai Group are very powerful. No matter how they redesign the chips, they can't compare with Xinghai Group's. He is unwilling to ask them to give up the mobile phone chip design department.
This kind of thing is really worrying and surprising. What is surprising is that such a strong company can appear in China.
Mr. Ren is also a loyal person and is grateful to Xinghai Group for helping Huawei during the crisis.
He also knew that as long as Mu Yang was willing, Hua Wei's mobile phone company would not survive for two years.
However, Mu Yang didn't want to make a mobile phone, he didn't deliberately suppress Huawei Company, and he didn't speak out loudly when they were in crisis.
"Mr. Mu, how is your wafer production capacity and chip production capacity?"
Mu Yang thought for a while, calculated, and then answered: "The wafer production capacity is currently 50,000 pieces, and there is not a big problem in increasing this production capacity;
As for chip production capacity, you have also seen that we currently only have two lithography machine prototypes, and the remaining prototypes are being assembled. We can assemble four units a month. The working efficiency of our lithography machines is not slow.
Each 12-inch wafer can produce about 700 pieces of Hess Kirin 925. Our scrap rate is not high. The monthly production of 30 million chips is not a problem. We can meet Huawei's demand before New Year's Day, and we can also give priority to supply to you.
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Next year, we can expand to produce 150,000 wafers per month."
Before there was no mask chip, the price of each 12-inch wafer was about 10,000 yuan. On average, each mobile phone chip was only a dozen yuan.
After the mask is turned into a chip, how much the price increases depends mainly on the content of the chip.
The main cost of this mask is the cost of the photolithography machine equipment. The higher the efficiency of the photolithography machine, the lower the cost.
Controlling an EUV lithography machine to produce 24 hours a day, it can process about 2,400 12-inch wafers a day, or at least a thousand wafers. In other words, under ideal conditions, a lithography machine can produce 150 wafers a day.
Thousands of mobile phone chips.
In fact, 1.5 million coins is an ideal situation, but in reality completing one million coins is about the same.
Based on the calculation of one billion yuan for an EUV lithography machine, as long as the quantity is sufficient, the mask cost of each chip is not high after amortization, only two or three yuan.
Therefore, Mu Yang said that the production cost of each Starlight 01 would be less than twenty yuan as long as the quantity is sufficient.
But it can be sold for four to five hundred yuan!
Of course, if the volume is small, the payback period will be very long.
Xinghai Group charges 360 yuan for Huawei to manufacture HiSilicon Kirin 925. If the EBL lithography machine is priced at 1 billion yuan, it will have to produce 3.5 million chips to recover the cost.
If the EBL lithography machine is priced at 2 billion, it will have to produce 7 million mobile phone chips to recover the cost.
In the next few years, Huawei Company will be able to produce more than 200 million mobile phones a year, and the demand for mobile phone chips will be huge.
In addition to mobile phone chips, there are other types of chips. Moss Semiconductor produces five billion chips a year.
Xinghai Group plans to only produce high-end chips and can produce one billion chips per year next year, making it a new money-attracting beast for Xinghai Group.
"With this kind of production capacity, we don't have to worry. Mr. Mu is well prepared and efficient, which is why Xinghai Group has developed so fast. We have a lot to learn from you."
Muyang Dairen always took a look at the performance test of Xingchen 01. There were testers on site who used several mobile phones, disassembled the original chips and replaced them with Xingchen 01 chips for testing and comparison.
If the MATE7 high-end version has a running score of about 40,000 points, then after replacing it with the Xingchen 01, the running score can reach 100,000 points.
In the evening, Mu Yang accompanied Ren to dinner and chatted with him a lot about the situation of mobile phones in China.
The next day, Mr. Ren continued to discuss the cooperation details with Mu Yang, and Zhou Chen was ultimately responsible.
At nine o'clock that night, Mu Yang posted a message on Weibo:
[Xinghai Group’s first independently developed EDA chip design software has been successfully developed. Huawei Company will use Xinghai Group’s EDA software for chip design.]
Many Muyang fans don’t know what EDA is, but naturally some people will explain it, saying that “EDA is the most difficult engineering software to develop” and “EDA is almost equivalent to half a photolithography machine.”
Without EDA, there would be no platform for chip design.
After figuring out the situation, fans sent congratulations to Mu Yang.
"congratulate!"
"Congratulations to Mu Shen, and congratulations to Xinghai Group for reaching a higher level."
"Congratulations from Guangxi Province: Congratulations to Xinghai Group for independently developing EDA and breaking the monopoly of developed countries."
"Jiangnan Province comes to congratulate: Congratulations to Xinghai Group for creating history and breaking the record of zero."
"Huawei Company has just been restricted from using EDA by Cadence, and Xinghai Group has provided help in times of need. Cadence is equivalent to a fart."
"Cadence: Mu Yang, are you kidding me?! If you don't announce it sooner, you won't announce it later, but now it's time to announce it!"
Mu Yang’s Weibo was quickly reprinted by domestic and foreign media.
Foreigners are reposting this announcement like crazy, mainly because the U.S. government has just announced restrictions on Huawei Company.
The purpose of the series of export bans imposed by the United States on Huawei is to prevent Huawei from obtaining a series of key Chinese technologies, weakening its ability to manufacture advanced products from smartphones to servers, and weakening Huawei's continued development of chips.
Strength, weaken Hua Wei's threat to Chouguo's communications.
As a result, just two days later, Mu Yang announced that Xinghai Group's EDA was successfully developed and licensed to Huawei Company, which seemed a bit funny about Chou Country's restrictions on Huawei Company.
Less than three days after the restriction, Mu Yang came back with a slap in the face.
A month or two later would be fine, but in less than three days, Chou Country will not be able to step down.
After doing this, Chou Country found out, and the relevant department personnel were very angry.
"FU*K, damn Mu Yang, damn Xinghai Group!"
"What does Mu Yang want to do? He's going to do this to us! He will never be rewarded."
"If we shoot first, we must teach Xinghai Group and Muyang a lesson, otherwise, we will become a global joke!"
"Then what can we sanction Xinghai Group? Shut down Hummer?"
"That can't be closed. Many shares are controlled by our country's consortium. If the Hummer company is shut down, those around it will suffer serious losses and will definitely cause trouble for us."
"In this case, let's restrict Xinghai Group together so that Xinghai Group and Huawei Company cannot buy a single chip from our country. Xinghai Group's cars, CNC systems, and robots all purchase chips from our country."
"Other than that, there is no better way. Most of Xinghai Group's products are independently developed and other restrictions are irrelevant to them."
"Okay, let's announce it immediately. In the words of the Chinese, you must retaliate with tooth! Unless Mu Yang admits his mistake, they will not be able to buy a single chip from our country."
"Maybe there will be some impact on Hummer stock."
"Then it must be done, and Xinghai Group must pay a certain price."
In China time, eleven o'clock in the evening corresponds to eleven o'clock in the morning in Chou country.
Relevant departments of the U.S. State issued a public announcement on Xinghai Group: "In view of Xinghai Group's violation of U.S. commercial laws, starting from September 20, 2014, within one year, U.S.-related chip manufacturers are not allowed to sell chips and related technologies to Xinghai Group.
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This announcement aroused great public opinion around the world.
Anyone with a discerning eye will know at a glance that this is Chou Country's counterattack against Xinghai Group, attacking Xinghai Group's "disobedience".
Many Chinese media have conducted follow-up reports and analyzed the impact of this round of restrictions on Xinghai Group. For example, it will no longer be able to buy automotive chips.
Chapter completed!