Ouyang Bian and Lu Huiqing chatted, and went to find Wang Anshi.

Wang Anshi was also the chief officer of the three departments and regulations, and was also a deputy to the political affairs of the government. He was ranked ahead of Ouyang Bian. Ouyang Bian had to report to Wang Anshi.

Ouyang Bian reported in detail to Wang Anshi about the implementation of the All-Export Law and the Immunity Law. Wang Anshi nodded while listening. Although there were still some unsatisfactory aspects, there was no problem in the implementation.

Wang Anshi excitedly said: "In this way, our path is correct, Ji Mo!"

Ouyang Bian quickly said, "Teacher, I'm here."

Wang Anshi said: "How to study Baojia Law, Baoma Law, etc., can we start promulgating it?"

Ouyang Bian shook his head and said, "Teacher, after our research, there are still many imperfections in these two regulations, and they have to be modified to yes in detail."

The joy on Wang Anshi's face gradually subsided. He was silent and said, "...Ji Mo, I remember you once said that the disease of the Song Dynasty lies in the economy, official corruption, and relaxation of military preparations."

Ouyang Bian nodded, he said this.

Wang Anshi glanced at Ouyang Bian: "The Baoma Law and the Baojia Law are to make the Song Dynasty stronger again. If all the people of the Song Dynasty can be armed, why should we be afraid of Liao and Xia?

There are more than two million people in Western Xia, and only five or six million people in Liao Kingdom. However, there are tens of millions of people in our Song Dynasty. As long as we organize the people, why not be afraid of Liaoxia?

Ji Mo, you have always been steady and fast in doing things, but you have been dragging this Baojia method for so long, always saying that there are many problems, but where are the regulations perfect?”

Ouyang Bian smiled bitterly and said, "Teacher, these two are indeed too flawed. If implemented, there will be too many disadvantages."

Wang Anshi snorted: "What can be wrong? The Baojia method is a rule I have formulated by referring to the united soldiers of the Tang Dynasty. There were precedents in history.

During the Kangding period, the militia showed good combat qualities in the Battle of Haoshuichuan. At that time, nearly 400,000 militias were organized in the northwest and Hebei to consolidate border defense, which played a very good role.

The number of military accounts in the Song Dynasty has exceeded one million. Although it can be supported now, once a war starts, huge military expenditures will drag down the entire country.

The system of military and agricultural integration is the best choice at present. Baoding is the first to eat three liters of rice per day, and salt and vegetables cost 10 cents, which is much cheaper than the imperial guards!"

Ouyang Bian smiled bitterly and said, "It's not like this. The Tang Dynasty's united soldiers had their own land and equipment. In addition, they practiced martial arts since childhood, so their performance in foreign wars is no worse than that of regular soldiers.

Nowadays, farmers are not as good as the united soldiers of the Tang Dynasty. Just making a living makes them exhausted. Where can they practice martial arts? Moreover, if they follow the Baojia method, train and equipment, they have to pay for it themselves. Where do they take out so much money?"

Wang Anshi said in surprise: "The court pays for the oral food, and the equipment is built by the court. Why do you have to pay for it yourself?"

Ouyang Bian couldn't help but smile bitterly.

The law of clearing the land, exempting the service, and all-in-one export methods can be supervised through inspections. As long as the publicity is needed, the households will independently protect their own interests. However, the Baojia Law has been in charge of the hands of the Chief A, instructing, inspecting, and attacking the throne department for a long time, and the corruption problem cannot be solved at all.

History has also proved that the Baojia method is difficult to work and is unnecessary. The Song Dynasty actually never used Baojia as a regular army.

For example, during the Western Xia battle in the fourth year of Yuanfeng, Kaifeng Prefecture and Shaanxi selected 10,000 volunteers and baojia. During the war, volunteers and baojia mainly served as auxiliary personnel such as defending the city, charity, baggage, and feeding.

Such a huge military training nationwide was so powerful that he finally picked ten thousand people to serve as some servants. What is the significance of this Baojia method?

And the key is that later, the Baoding armed forces broke out against the court, and the court spent a lot of effort to suppress it. Why is that hard?

However, these are not up to Wang Anshi. Ouyang Bian worked hard to clear the land and the method of saving all the land and exemption from labor. Wang Anshi was therefore full of confidence and felt that everything was impossible in the world, so he could not hear the words.

Ouyang Bian smiled bitterly and shook his head. He said he had dug a hole for himself.

"Teacher, you have also ruled in prefectures and counties. You should know how harsh the officials at the bottom are. You can use all your power to be very domineering.

If they get these opportunities, they will definitely try their best to deduct them, and they will also let Baoding pay for himself, and even use the punishment to extort Baoding..."

Wang Anshi waved his hand and said, "As long as we send someone to inspect, we can naturally stop it."

Ouyang Bian smiled bitterly and said, "There are so many counties and townships, and there are many supervision places? This is different from the exemption law..."

Wang Anshi snorted and said, "What's the difference? Others can be monitored, and of course this can be monitored. If it doesn't work, send more people, and it can always be done."

"The key is that this rate of return is not high, and it disturbs the public very much..."

Wang Anshi's face became worse and worse.

"Jimo!"

Wang Anshi roared, and everyone outside the public hall heard it, and couldn't help but look at it.

Wang Anshi stared at them, and the people outside quickly walked away.

He took a deep breath and said slowly: "Ji Mo, what's going on with you? I know you are cautious, but there is no guarantee of reform. You see, it's not difficult to clear the land and the exemption method, and the law of exemption from service. Isn't it also completed? There are many problems in it. Haven't we solved it too? Why did you come to Baojia Method and Horse Protection Method? You don't want to solve the problem, but you always refuse. What's your idea?"

Wang Anshi calmed down at the beginning, but when he talked about it, he became a little harsh.

Ouyang Bian was also a little angry and looked very bad. In fact, it was not the first time they had a dispute today. Since he served as the official of the Regulations of the Three Divisions, he has been trying to discuss this issue with Wang Anshi, thinking of stopping the introduction of these two regulations. At the beginning, Wang Anshi just said to discuss it well, but after the recent success of the equal-to-elimination law and the exemption law, Wang Anshi repeatedly proposed to introduce the Second Guarantee Law as soon as possible. Ouyang Bian persuaded him several times, but they all ended in unhappiness.

Ouyang Bian took a deep breath and said, "Teacher, these two methods of protection are really flawed. I forgive my disciples for not being able to obey their duties!"

Wang Anshi stared at Ouyang Bian with sharp eyes: "Ji Mo, don't you listen to the teacher's words?"

Ouyang Bian shook his head gently: "It's not that I disobey my teacher's order, but that the second guarantee of the law harms the people."

Wang Anshi suddenly became angry: "I, Wang Anshi, only patriotism and love the people, how can I harm the people? How can you Ouyang Bian arrange it like this!"

The roar filled the public hall, and Ouyang Bian looked at Wang Anshi without fear.
Chapter completed!