146【Interview with Hong Kong Media】
There are two Chinese sitting in the private room, about 40 years old.
One of them was wearing glasses and was polite. When he saw Song Weiyang and Lin Zhuoyun come in, he immediately stood up and shook hands: "Hello Song Sheng! I am Hu Bosheng, a reporter from Capitalist magazine. This is my partner Chen Gui."
"Hello, two gentlemen," Song Weiyang introduced, "This is my friend Lin Zhuoyun, who happened to come out for dinner together."
Hu Bosheng hurriedly shook hands with Lin Zhuoyun, finished greetings with each other, and said to Song Weiyang with a smile: "Song Sheng is really too young. If it weren't for your big brother, I wouldn't be sure it was you."
"There are many commercial prodigy in Hong Kong City, I'm nothing." Song Weiyang said.
Hu Bosheng laughed and said, "We can all call prodigy who can start a business before the age of 30, but we have never seen a prodigy who is under 20 years old."
Song Weiyang said: "Forgive me, let me ask you, what is the relationship between "Capitalist" and "Forbes"?"
"The Capitalist is the Hong Kong City Chinese version of Forbes, which is controlled by Forbes, but it has relatively high independence. The operations and management of the two companies are completely separate," explained Hu Bosheng. "Just earlier this year, we joined hands with Forbes to launch the global Chinese Rich List, and we also launched the Chinese Rich List in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Southeast Asia. These Chinese Rich Lists were well received, so we plan to strike while the iron is hot and launch the mainland billionaire list in February next year."
Song Weiyang smiled and said, "Is the investigation process very difficult?"
"It's too difficult," Bosen Hu shook his head repeatedly. "The rich people in the mainland don't like to disclose their property. A rich man will have to investigate and interview for two or three months, which makes us have to continue to increase our staff, otherwise we will not be able to collect data in a few years."
"People are afraid of being famous and pigs are afraid of being strong." Song Weiyang said.
Hu Bosheng said: "We have also considered this. When interviewing Mr. Liu of Hope Group, he said that he almost donated the company to the government four years ago. But now it is different. After Deng Sheng's southern tour of 1992, the mainland no longer shy away from the accumulation of wealth, and the Liu brothers also cooperated with our interview very much. In fact, making this rich list is also a very good thing for entrepreneurs like Song Sheng and you can increase your brand awareness."
"This is a good start." Song Weiyang nodded.
A few years later, a British man named Hurun also created a rich list in China, which turned out to be a "pig killing list". The rich people on the list were in great trouble one after another.
However, the mainland rich list launched by Forbes and Capitalists in 1995 is different. Except for Mou Chi-chan himself, the other rich people on the list basically have a good end. Of course, there are some unlucky ones, but they are normal bankruptcy and have little to do with crime.
The reason is that when the "Hurun Rich List" was released, it happened to be in a crazy period of state-owned enterprise reform. Many rich people were suspected of embezzling state-owned assets, or even using tricks to steal and play tricks. In the mid-to-early 1990s, although the rich people also had their original sins, those who could achieve hundreds of millions of assets and dare to admit them could withstand investigations and were not afraid of the lawsuits that the central government would not be afraid of.
Song Weiyang said: "Can you ask? How many assets are you planning to arrange for me?"
"Song Sheng was joking. The assets were not arranged by us, but were reasonably estimated based on the actual situation," said Hu Bosheng. "According to the reports provided by Xianjiu Group and Xifeng Company, you, Mr. Song Qizhi and Ms. Guo Xiaolan, have a net asset of 230 million yuan."
"It's a bit nonsense." Song Weiyang smiled.
"Song Sheng thinks our statistics are wrong?" Hu Bosheng asked.
"Too many," said Song Weiyang, "Xifeng and Xianjiu are both in debt, so how mysterious is it?"
Hu Bosheng actually asked: "What does Song Sheng think should be?"
Song Weiyang said: "I have been able to die of 80 million."
"That wouldn't be on the list," said Hu Bosheng. "Our asset appraisal is very reasonable. Although Xianjiu Group is heavily in debt, fixed assets such as factories, land, fleets, buildings, communities, etc. are there. Moreover, Xianjiu is now selling very hot. By the time the rich list is released in February, the assets will only become more."
OK, this is really good at counting and predictions are also made based on sales.
Song Weiyang could only explain: "The department store in Rongping City has been transferred to the municipal government after the winery was reorganized. There is also an employee community, which is nominally the winery industry, but it has been allocated to the employees, and there is basically no possibility of recovery. In order to divest the non-performing assets, the transportation company under the winery also sent to the government. Don't you remove these assets?"
Hu Bosheng said: "Your brother doesn't cooperate. What we got was last year's data, and we then used other channels to comprehensively understand the situation."
"The data from last year was also fake, and even the data from the previous year was fake," said Song Weiyang. "For political achievements, local governments forced wineries to exaggerate the scale of assets and sales, and then used tax cuts and subsidies to return taxes and fees, which contained at least 40% of the water. Especially in the last four months of last year, in order to cooperate with the central tax reform, local governments were exaggerating the tax payments across the country, and some local enterprises even exaggerated more than doubled!"
"It's really difficult to count the rich list in mainland China," Hu Bosheng shook his head bitterly, "What we want to investigate is the wealth of private enterprise bosses. Now it's difficult for private enterprises to go public, and they hide their financial reports one by one. If you want to rank a rich list, you can only guess."
Song Weiyang said: "Including fixed assets in Xianjiu Group and offsetting debts, the assets are actually less than 200 million yuan. Among these 200 million yuan, the Song family only accounts for 70% of the equity, and the rest are all distributed to the heroes and veterans of the winery."
"How did the shares be divided?" Hu Bosheng said in surprise.
Song Weiyang said: "The old friends who started their business with my dad have all been in prison, and now only one of them has been released from prison. But my dad is a nostalgic person. Not only does he adhere to the original share-sharing promise, but he also increases the proportion to be used as compensation."
Hu Bosheng exclaimed: "Ling Zun really keeps his promise!"
Song Weiyang continued: "Also, the money we bought from the winery was mortgaged by Xifeng Company's shares and loaned from the bank. Don't forget our mortgage debt!"
Hu Bosheng smiled awkwardly and said, "Of course I haven't forgotten, otherwise the Song family's wealth will double. Of course, Song Sheng has told so many inside stories, and I will discuss with the appraisers when I go back."
"So that," Song Weiyang said without hesitation, "As long as the Capitalist dares to announce that the Song family has 230 million assets, I will immediately ask a lawyer to sue your company. This is not a small problem. Your random reports will make everyone in China think that the Song family has embezzled state-owned assets!"
Hu Bosheng said: "Song Sheng, it's better. The Song family's ranking on the mainland rich list is temporarily set between 15 and 20. What do you think?"
"Yes." Song Weiyang felt speechless.
Forbes' list of rich people is not even guessing, but you can bargain!
I can only say that China in the 1990s was too weird, with authority such as the "Forbes Rich List". It was definitely led to go astray when I went to the mainland. No wonder I stopped doing this list after several issues.
The wine and food were already served. Hu Bosheng took out the paper and pen and recorder while eating: "Song Sheng, I know you are still studying, so let's hurry up. Which university are you studying now?"
"Guess?" Song Weiyang smiled.
There are several universities near Wujiaochang, but it is not necessarily possible to guess that it is Fudan.
Hu Bosheng can only say: "Then let's talk about a question. Xifeng and Xianjiu are both developing rapidly. Have you ever thought about listing in Hong Kong City?"
This is what Capitalist magazine is concerned about. In the mid-to-early 1990s, the concept of "mainland stocks" was quarreled, and Hong Kong City stock investors spent money to buy them like crazy. However, mainland entrepreneurs, due to the difficulties in listing in Shanghai and Shenzhen, tried every means to go to Hong Kong City to go public, and the two sides hit it off.
Shi Yuzhu has been able to play so much in the past two years, but it is the result of Hong Kong compatriots giving money crazy. Not to mention making money in Hong Kong stocks, the Giant Building he built was pre-ordered by Hong Kong citizens before the foundation was laid.
"Capitalist" magazine is quite professional, without asking too many gossip topics, and the whole process revolves around business.
Until the end, Bosen Hu asked: "You took the lead in launching the anti-Japanese war manifesto in the Chinese business community. Are you sure to kill Coca-Cola and Pepsi in the beverage industry?"
"It's almost impossible," said Song Weiyang, "but I will do my best to seize the beverage market share. Within two years, Xifeng will launch Coke products to retake the Coke market!"
Hu Bosheng was a little excited: "Tianfu Cola, which once occupied 70% of the market share of China's Coke, is gone. According to data, Coca-Cola and Pepsi now occupy more than 98% of the market share of China's Coke. Are you confident of regaining how much lost land you have?"
"At least 30%!" Song Weiyang said.
"In other words, the Coke produced by Xifeng Company will be divided into three parts of the world with Coca-Cola and Pepsi in the future?" Hu Bosheng deliberately guided.
"Not bad!" Song Weiyang nodded.
Chapter completed!